Felton you are braking the rules of wikipedia. Nothing on there is in contempt and you have no right to claim otherwise. You are violating the rules and I will report you for this if you keep it up. I am indifferent on your work but I think you are worthy of having a wikipedia page. This is not a site where people pay money to advertise themselves.

I don't care if Felton is a rabid anti-Zionist... It's absolutely shameful and disgraceful that anyone should have to put up with that kind of baiting and arrogant bullshit by clowns like this "Eternalsleeper" moron anywhere, much less on one of the most popular websites in the world.

Are we to seriously believe that a local library would sponsor a "hate fest"?

Eternalsleeper is now a member here.

I hope that Thekohser will have the grace to withdraw the accusation that he is "a half-literate Wikipediot" just because he made a typing error, and Somey will withdraw the curious charge that he is both a moron and a clowm.

There's a typo in the topic name. Should be "breaking" not "braking".

Actually, looking at the quote, it seems that it is a deliberate typo... hehe.

Eternalsleeper is now a member here.

I hope that Thekohser will have the grace to withdraw the accusation that he is "a half-literate Wikipediot" just because he made a typing error, and Somey will withdraw the curious charge that he is both a moron and a clowmn.

From your edits it appears you are against Zionism so your edits have a natural reason to be against the JDL and I suggest you refrain from editing that page as you may have a [[conflict of interest]].

Eternalsleeper is now a member here.

I hope that thekohser will have the grace to withdraw the accusation that he is "a half-literate Wikipediot" just because he made a typing error, and Somey will withdraw the curious charge that he is both a moron and a clown.

Thanks for taking the time to read the screed, Somey. My favorite part from "Eternalsleeper" was:



Are we to seriously believe that a local library would sponsor a "hate fest"?

But more importantly, we have here a Wikipediot who was so incensed at Greg Felton that he wrote a letter to his library to complain about the author's appearance there. Yet, it is not a conflict of interest for this rabid foamer to edit Felton's article, but it's a conflict of interest for Felton to edit his own article on Wikipedia.

Eternalsleeper is a loose cannon if we've ever seen one, yet he has a pristine block log.

That's Wikipedia for ya.

Greg

The guy seems like a complete turkey, member or not. Take a look at this string of edits.

He removes a sourced statement attributed to the FBI which states that the Jewish Defense League are a "terrorist organisation" with the edit summary "rvv - i called FBI - not listed as a terror group - stop the baseless lies)"!

He then goes onto Roland R's page (who re added the sourced fact) to say:


Whether or not an organisation like the FBI should be quoted and sourced in a lead is another matter. I personally don't think they should be, but the statements to Roland are outrageous. I can't imagine he'll last much longer going about like that.

"I called the FBI.." indeed.

In December 2001 Irving David Rubin and Earl Leslie Krugel, members of the extremist Jewish Defense League, were arrested as they were in the final stages of planning attacks against the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, California, and the local office of U.S. Congressman Darrell Issa.

Let the Eternalsleeper speak, claim his identity, and discuss why he didn't feel he had a WP:COI even though he wrote a letter to his local library protesting their hosting a living person whose article he was lording over on Wikipedia.

I'm willing to be friends with the guy, even if he's a half-literate, moronic clown.

Greg

I don't really care about this article and I am outnumbered by many people who are insisting on keeping it the way it is, but this is the only link on the Internet they have and if they were a terrorist organization there would be many links and they would not be able to operate in the United States (which they do).

What is your explanation for this if they are a terrorist group??

There are terrorist groups operating all over the United States backing various international causes, mostly monitored but not necessarily impeded by the FBI until things get a bit tasty. The last time I checked, there were over 20 bands of FBI designated terrorist groups in Florida alone. And I'm not even including Jimbo God-King's civilisation-threatening WMF in that.

In December 2001 Irving David Rubin and Earl Leslie Krugel, members of the extremist Jewish Defense League, were arrested as they were in the final stages of planning attacks against the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, California, and the local office of U.S. Congressman Darrell Issa.

Where can I find proof that in 2007 JDL is a terrorist organization?

In [[2001]], the [[FBI]] officially labeled the organization a "right-wing [[terrorist]] group."

I showed you evidence that the statement was true.

The FBI recorded 14 terrorist incidents and two terrorist preventions in the United States and its territories in 2001. Twelve of the 14 recorded incidents were carried out by domestic terrorists. One incident, the terrorist attack of September 11, was perpetrated by international terrorists. At this time, the other incident, an unsolved series of anthrax-tainted letters sent through the U.S. postal system, cannot yet be characterized as either domestic or international in nature. The two terrorist plots prevented by law enforcement in 2001 were being planned by domestic extremists.

Eight of the terrorist incidents that occurred in the United States in 2001 have been attributed to the Earth Liberation Front (ELF). A claim of responsibility for an additional incident, arson fires set at an automobile dealership in Eugene, Oregon, was issued by the North American ELF Press Office on behalf of an “anonymous group.” One incident was claimed by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF). Two terrorist incidents, separate bank robberies in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and Morgantown, West Virginia, have been attributed to Clayton Lee Waagner, a special interest extremist who was arrested in December 2001 for numerous crimes related directly and indirectly to his anti-abortion activities. The terrorist attack of September 11, 2001, involving the hijacking of four commercial airliners which were crashed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a remote field in Pennsylvania, marked the first successful international terrorist attack in the United States since the bombing of the World Trade Center in February 1993. The attack was carried out by 19 members of Al-Qaeda, an international terrorist network headed by Usama bin Laden. A series of parcels containing the biological agent anthrax sent through the U.S. postal system during fall 2001 remains under investigation by the FBI and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service. As noted, to date, this terrorist incident has not been definitively classified as either domestic or international in nature.

A total of 2,788 people lost their lives in the United States in terrorist attacks that occurred during 2001. The September 11 attack resulted in 2,783 deaths, making it the most deadly act of terrorism ever committed. In addition to the fatalities, an unknown number of persons was injured. The subsequent series of anthrax mailings resulted in five deaths, with an additional 17 individuals receiving treatment for anthrax exposure. No other terrorist attacks carried out in the United States in 2001 resulted in deaths or serious injuries.

The two terrorist plots prevented by law enforcement in 2001 were being planned by domestic extremists. Ronald Mike Denton was planning to attack his former place of employment, the Chevron Oil Refinery at El Segundo, California, when he was arrested in March 2001. In December 2001 Irving David Rubin and Earl Leslie Krugel, members of the extremist Jewish Defense League, were arrested as they were in the final stages of planning attacks against the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, California, and the local office of U.S. Congressman Darrell Issa.

We indeed have a literacy problem here. Calling someone "extremist" is not the same as "terrorist". George Galloway is an extremist and he may well have supported terrorists, but I would stoutly defend him against a charge of terrorism. If individual members of an organisation are arrested on suspicion of planning a crime (and were they ever charged?) does that make the whole organisation terrorists? If (for the sake of argument) an individual editor here were to vandalise WP, would that make this a vandalism site?

MY WHOLE POINT was that JDL was NEVER LISTED as a terrorist organization

1980- 2001 - Figures include terrorist incidents, suspected terrorist incidents, and preventions, (The Jewish Defense League has been deemed a right-wing terrorist group.).

So an organisation listed in the FBI Terrorism Review 2001 conducting "terrorist plots" in 2001 whose leading members were arrested by the FBI on terrorism charges were "never listed as a terrorist organisation by the FBI?", and to add that they were in 2001 is "vandalism"?



Wikipedia at its best!

Oh, and here's the FBI in their own words.


http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:rJSDP...clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

Gertcha, Sleeper.

If you were the true literate of Wikipedia perhaps you would have understood the typo and how it was used like the other fellow on here?

Now that this thread is careering off track like a crippled TIE fighter, I'm hoping that it's safe to say that I need not even respond to this retort from Eternalsleeper. I'm content to admit defeat, that I am not the "true literate of Wikipedia". You win, Eternalsleeper. My critique of you was never about the conflict of interest in lording over a BLP with a WP:OWN frenzy, inclusive of even a letter writing effort to your neighborhood library when the subject of the BLP came to town. No, you win.

Greg