The exchange of views that took place between DABBUØ and Kurykh — before Rx StrangeLove so rudely blanked the talk page — is e-musing, and may even be instructive.
Removal of TextHowdy and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed you have been trying to remove the contributions of a banned user. Although Wikipedia policy does prohibit banned users from editing, it is not the case that all of their contributions made prior to the ban must be removed. If you have concerns about the article content itself, feel free to discuss on the talk page. The other thing to note, it is better to use a deletion process rather than simply blanking the page. Thanks, TeaDrinker 22:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
November 2007I am simply following the
de facto policy that I have observed being practiced time and time again, on a consistent and I dare say a
persistent basis, by trusted administrators. DABBUØ 23:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
: You seem to be confused about the
ban policy. The policy states that we must revert all edits made by the banned user
after the user is banned, not the ones before. There is no
de facto policy saying that all edits made by the banned user before the ban must be reverted. Kurykh 23:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia's policies say a lot of things, and half of them contradict the other half. On top of that, we have the spectacle of Wikipedia Administrators persisting with impunity to violate both the letter and the spirit of a free and open, quality-based wiki project. Faced with all that confoundation of reason, I am forced to resort to common sense, and lucky for me you have a rule that says I can. DABBUØ 23:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Common sense tells me this. A body of editors that uses an author's work, that does not allow the author to continue improving that work, that allows its leadership to destroy work blindly and automatically on the basis of a personal vendetta without even looking at the quality of the revisions — that body of editors has forfeited the right to use that author's work. DABBUØ 23:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
: Wrong. The author releases all rights to his/her work the moment he/she clicks the "save page" button. You do not own anything here. Kurykh 23:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I made no claim of ownership. Nor is one demanded. I am simply defending the intellectual and moral rights of all who have them. It's an often dirty job, but someone has to do it. DABBUØ 23:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
: I meant "you" in the general sense. However, you still seem confused; once you post here, you have no "intellectual and moral rights" over the information you submit. The submitted information is now "free" (with restrictions due to licensing) to be used and/or modified
ad infinitum by others for any purpose other than that explicitly forbidden. Kurykh 00:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Contributors do not press that "save page" button in empty space, but in a context filled with pretensions authorized by the WikiMedia Foundation. Those pretenses have turned out to be false, and so whatever gentleperson's agreement might have been implied by that conjoint transaction is now utterly null and void. DABBUØ 00:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
: Then whatever grievances you hold with the Wikimedia Foundation should be taken up to there. Please do not disrupt Wikipedia, a collaboration of volunteers under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation and whose members often have no affiliation with the Foundation other than being users and administrators (with implies no official position) of Wikipedia. Kurykh 00:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I wasn't trying to convince you of anything. I was simply telling you how I view it, and how at least one common sense person will most likely continue to view it. Your body of volunteers harbors the seeds of your own disruption. Look Homeward. DABBUØ 00:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)