Could anyone fill me in on what Irpen is talking about here?

Also, should this thread be moved and retitled, since the arbcom case is no longer just about Giano?

From what I understand from working in the ArbCom case, sometime in late 2006 (and yes, I may be wrong), Kelly Martin (who was no longer an admin at the time, but still maintained her IRC Channel Op power on the freenode) had Slim Virgin's account acccess to the admins channel revoked.

Basically, there's a list of nicknames that are allowed to enter the admins channel (I had to request access when I was made an admin). and you have to confirm via a nickname server command that yes, you are the real person who has access to that channel. (you have to enter a password that you've set up)

You seem to have misunderstood. "the circumstances of Kelly Martin's removal of access from #admins last summer and removal of the chanop status at #wikipedia from her recently" refers to Kelly's access being removed, not Kelly removing the access of others.

I thought that SirFozzie was saying that Kelly got her access removed because she removed SV's access to the channel.

But I am confused at this point. I thought Kelly was still considered one of the channel owners, or whatever they call it on freenode.

From comments later on, someone removed SV's access to Admins. SV apparently believes this was done at the behest of Kelly. SV later regained access to the channel

Kelly WAS a channel op in #wikipedia up until a few weeks ago, and had access to #admins for a while despite no longer being an admin.

Fuck what Slimvirgin believes. She's got a suspicion problem. Actually, make that a fucking paranoia problem. She fucked over Krimpet, planting all sorts of rumors that Krimpet was somehow involved with "bad things", to the point that Krimpet I believe left the project (and came back, of course). She's had others who she gets a stick up her ass "investigated" about. I've never been the one to be on the anti-SV bandwagon, I could give a shit about spies and bombings and that stuff. But when I see the words "SV believes this was done by..." my hair rises on end. Hell, she tried to have me investigated. This is fucking retarded.

Krimpet was involved with at least some bad things - she outed my real-world identity, which given Wikipedia's flame war environment amounts to a de facto ban. The only thing I had ever done to her is stand up to her threats when she was meatpuppeting for User:Elonka via IRC.

If WP leadership meant it when they claim to oppose outing, Krimpet would have been desysoped. Instead she gets to use her admin tools to delete old (compromising) versions of her userpage to protect her own RWI - safer to out others that way.

If you're referring to the latest Elonka RFA, the events I am talking about happened significantly before that.

I have been asked to clarify:

Kelly Martin was never "stripped" of chanop access to #wikipedia-en-admins.

last I knew Kelly still had the access to join the admin channel (although not @ there)

she did have her @ removed from #wikipedia by James F without a reason why.

I'm not. Krimpet was adminpuppeting for Elonka back in August.

Immediately after Elonka warned me she woud get me into trouble on Commons (02:34, 19 August 2007 - attack page since deleted - Elonka's "tests" are designed to bury these versions in the history…

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...er:Elonka/Work1

Krimpet showed up to warn me on Commons:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...t&oldid=7106520

It took several direct inquiries on Commons and WP before she admitted that she'd been solicited by Elonka via IRC:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=152674582

Another example where Krimpet meatpuppeted for Elonka is here:


This article, created by User:AndyFinkenstadt, was created to shore up Antoni Dunin's (Elonka's family) claim to notability:



AndyFinkenstadt is a professional colleague and known meatpuppet of Elonka:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...AndyFinkenstadt

There is no reason for Krimpet to have happened upon that article except at Elonka's request, to expand and protect her network of Dunin family spam. Just as there was no reason for Krimpet, with whom I'd never once come into contact, to threaten me, or to subsequently violate my privacy, except at Elonka's request.

It seems really bizarre that Elonka's spam is tolerated on Wikipedia, and that no one challenges her on it.

This kind of cruft degrades the project, and certainly makes her look less credible.

Bad stuff all around.

People do challenge her on it. If she thinks them vulnerable, she gets them blocked (or worse.) For example, the last three blocks in this log were punishments for challenging the Dunin family spam. The first two were based upon false charges of sockpuppetry and posting private information, respectively; for the third no pretense was given other than Matt57's keeping the subject alive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...age=User:Matt57

Then I got outed for defending Matt57 against Elonka's relentless barrage (via IRC meatpuppets) of false charges.

Krimpet gave out your identity for that? Wow.

I don't get what Elonka is thinking in writing up her family like that. It puts her in an embarassing situation. When/if they get deleted (which in all likelihood, by the very fact she created them, is possible) she has to go back and tell them that they got deleted.

It looks as if Stanley Dunin finally got deleted. Was that her Dad or her father in law?

Honestly, it all makes her look so unserious.

Her dad. The article informed readers that he had discovered how to place satellites into geosynchronous orbit. Which would make him very obviously notable, were it only so. Overall, it read like a shamelessly-inflated resume for the second-to-latest in the Dunin line of blue-blooded superhumans.

The article contained info which was not true?

How do you know this to not be true? Can you state a ref? Not that I don't believe you. I'd simply like to know the specific points.

For what it is worth, I know some Poles who were in government, pre-communist era. Being of the ruling class of that era was quite a big deal, and they make quite much of it (and of themselves, in general). Being the intelligensia, and all that. The people to whom I refer are not the brightest at all, but make such a show of themselves. Annoying folk.



This is all very, very strange behavior.

The discussion is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Art...Stanley_Dunin_3

Hey, waitaminute....... I thought she cracked that code.

This is really weird.

and on her self-written bio, this is very resume-ish


why the freak write about working as a legal secretary? that's almost an embarassment if you are a famous crypto specialist. this is very resume-ish.
Based on what accounting system? Our university Computer lab also accounted for time online in the 1980s, but come on, so what? Any one person I know in that lab could have racked up a lot of hours on either compiling code or playing games, but so what?? This is really childish stuff to put on a bio.

Recommendation: Cut out all the resume stuff, which means leave only the "cryptography" stuff, which makes her famous. She has more about herself than Carl Hewitt, which is truly an embarassing thing to notice. She wants to put in the plug about public speaking, great. Merge it into the crypto stuff. Cut out the "Bio" and "Online Games" section. Put it in Linkedin, hon. That's where the resume stuff goes. No one cares that you were a legal secretary, or how many computer game hours you racked up, or where you were born, etc. Seriously.

Did she just become a WP admin to be able to front this stuff? Gosh.

There was another horrible thing that Krimpet did.

Greg

I never understood the fascination with this foam knife tranny thing.

So Wikipedia specific. (with the alternative culture and hang up on writing articles thereto pertaining)

Thanks Greg. While that and Proabivouac's evidence (at least at first glance) don't look too good for Krimpet, I stand by my opinion from my experiences with her that she's a good person. Certainly not anywhere close to Durova level.

My point with that little aside about Krimpet, is that despite the faults pointed out above, she didn't deserve a SV investigation. Nobody does, as far as I'm concerned.