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badlydrawnjeff
Similar apps may have been floated out there before, but this stats app seems to be very useful. I plugged in some articles I wrote just for kicks, and found interesting traffic spikes.

Thought it was interesting, at least. I'm sure some folks here will find it useful.
Moulton
Thanks for bring that to our attention. It looks like a useful tool.
One
This data looks legit. http://stats.grok.se/en/200801/User:Piperdown

WR is not quite slashdot: http://stats.grok.se/en/200801/Image:Eastern-Europe-map.png

Where is it coming from?
Peter Damian
Thanks. Are all the numbers correct. The January numbers seem consistently an order of magnitude different from the December ones.

Interesting how many hits the Philosophy article gets. Probably the worst thing ever written about Philosophy, and probably the most read. A professional philosopher told me it was regularly held up as an example of how bad Wikipedia was.

Yet, why don't academic philosophers get to work and improve it? It could improve the public perception of the subject (philosophers hate it when people confuse it with mysticism, astrology, crystals &c).
dogbiscuit
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 31st January 2008, 4:02pm) *

Thanks. Are all the numbers correct.


I'm not convinced. Our friend "Electric carving knife" mst have been visited more than once every few days given our fixation with it.
One
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 31st January 2008, 4:02pm) *

Thanks. Are all the numbers correct. The January numbers seem consistently an order of magnitude different from the December ones.

Interesting how many hits the Philosophy article gets. Probably the worst thing ever written about Philosophy, and probably the most read. A professional philosopher told me it was regularly held up as an example of how bad Wikipedia was.

Yet, why don't academic philosophers get to work and improve it? It could improve the public perception of the subject (philosophers hate it when people confuse it with mysticism, astrology, crystals &c).
The January numbers look similar to me. The December totals are much lower because it appears they started partway through the month.

The (free, online, expert-written) Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy is pretty good, but students dislike it for being too technical. People would rather consume slothful shit than challenging pearls.

Philosophy is a subject where many more people think they're an expert than actually are. This is why Wikipedia's advanced math articles aren't bad, while philosophy is garbage.

Electric carving knife was visited quite a bit. http://stats.grok.se/en/200712/Electric%20knife

It appears these numbers do not count redirects. Compare http://stats.grok.se/en/200801/Wikipedia:OR with http://stats.grok.se/en/200801/Wikipedia:Original%20research
GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(badlydrawnjeff @ Thu 31st January 2008, 9:49am) *

Similar apps may have been floated out there before, but this stats app seems to be very useful. I plugged in some articles I wrote just for kicks, and found interesting traffic spikes.

Thought it was interesting, at least. I'm sure some folks here will find it useful.


Nice tool. thanks BDJ.
guy
So is there a publicly viewable log of page hits? And does this mean that checkusers can find out who's viewed each page? Plenty of opportunity to find links between people that way!
wikiwhistle
QUOTE(badlydrawnjeff @ Thu 31st January 2008, 2:49pm) *

Similar apps may have been floated out there before, but this stats app seems to be very useful. I plugged in some articles I wrote just for kicks, and found interesting traffic spikes.

Thought it was interesting, at least. I'm sure some folks here will find it useful.


oooooh excellent. I've been looking for something like this, to see if some of my articles have been viewed by anyone else at all biggrin.gif

Thanks for posting this.
Viridae
This is an interesting app. Here is the traffic stats for an article that was originally started as a cut and paste late at night on the 15th of january. It was then mentioned on ANI/AN as a copyvio, so I went and confirmed the copyvio status and deleted it. But it looked like an interesting subject for an article so I wrote a single sentence stub, to be fleshed out when I get a chance.

http://stats.grok.se/en/200801/Dufuna%20canoe

Seems that it is completely accurate, the traffic stats are entirely consistent with that pattern.
jorge
Very useful, it does user pages too .
tarantino
The raw data that this app uses is compiled by User:Midom, a MySQL employee and the WMF hardware officer. It can be found here.
Piperdown
QUOTE(One @ Thu 31st January 2008, 3:37pm) *

This data looks legit. http://stats.grok.se/en/200801/User:Piperdown

WR is not quite slashdot: http://stats.grok.se/en/200801/Image:Eastern-Europe-map.png

Where is it coming from?


http://stats.grok.se/en/200801/User:Piperdown/1

155 hits over two days on the page showing what Mantanmorelands sock show has been up
to on WP.

Nice.

* admin note: removed double quoting - Nathan



Check this out:

http://stats.grok.se/en/200801/User:Lastexit

Mantanmoreland's checking out his old sock page regularly to make sure no one vandals it.
dancercotillion
I wish it could give a list of users who've viewed the page, so I can know why my userpage randomly got looked at 10 times one day when it's surrounded by 1's in both directions. Very disconcerting.
Viridae
QUOTE(dancercotillion @ Fri 1st February 2008, 4:52pm) *

I wish it could give a list of users who've viewed the page, so I can know why my userpage randomly got looked at 10 times one day when it's surrounded by 1's in both directions. Very disconcerting.


Lol.

<edit>

Mmm, what did I o on the 13th of december? http://stats.grok.se/en/200712/User%20talk:Viridae

<edit>

Oh I know what I did: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vir...c.27s_talk_page
dogbiscuit
Interesting that the author also has a statement on the problems of trolls, but actually understands the underlying issue.

QUOTE

In some aspects, Wikipedia is struggling to define itself with its own success. Trolling, pov-pushing and systematic efforts to undermine the encyclopedia are present, and when I say that I'm definitely not referring to the efforts of our controversial, but great writers. I'm talking about bitter infighting among nationalists, anti-science editing in evolution and users becoming more skilled at skirting our policies, never acting quite badly enough to be thrown out.


The link to controversial but great writers is Giano II.

Give the man a barnstar.
Moulton
Tarantino, can you confirm whether the number of page views on any given day is a raw count (i.e. it counts even if the same person views the page multiple times in a day) or a unique viewer count (i.e. it only counts once if the same browser client on the same IP views it more than once in a given day).

When someone is editing a page, the editor typically views the page at least twice (once before and once after the edit).
One
QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 1st February 2008, 2:16pm) *

Tarantino, can you confirm whether the number of page views on any given day is a raw count (i.e. it counts even if the same person views the page multiple times in a day) or a unique viewer count (i.e. it only counts once if the same browser client on the same IP views it more than once in a given day).

When someone is editing a page, the editor typically views the page at least twice (once before and once after the edit).

It's possible to edit a page while only viewing it once. http://stats.grok.se/en/200801/User:David%...kbone/Buildings (edits on 12th and 14th, one view each)

I don't know whether that means they're unique though. Post-edit views might just not count.
tarantino
QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 1st February 2008, 2:16pm) *

Tarantino, can you confirm whether the number of page views on any given day is a raw count (i.e. it counts even if the same person views the page multiple times in a day) or a unique viewer count (i.e. it only counts once if the same browser client on the same IP views it more than once in a given day).

When someone is editing a page, the editor typically views the page at least twice (once before and once after the edit).


No, I can't confirm it, but it should be easy to test. The files at dammit.lt/wikistats/ appear to show every page request beginning with *.wikipedia.org/wiki/ and how many times it was requested , broken down by hour. There's plenty of examples of requests for pages that are badly misspelled, or otherwise obviously never existed. Just make something up, keep refreshing it, and then check to see if the results match your number of requests.
Moulton
Now, if I were only one of those misfits who actually does enjoy doing original research. smile.gif
thekohser
It's interesting to note how a BLP article gets swamped when someone does something notorious.

Even our friend Carolyn Doran got a big traffic spike in December; and even long after her article was shoved down Jimbo's Memory Hole, there are still 7-10 people a day looking (fruitlessly) for info about her.

Greg
guy
And not finding it and wondering why. Own goal?
thekohser
QUOTE(guy @ Mon 11th February 2008, 6:13am) *

And not finding it and wondering why. Own goal?


What do you mean by "Own goal?", Guy?

Anyway, I think this page must have some philosophical meaning, don't you think? In some etymological or existential plane, we are to understand that "Carolyn Doran" is the same thing as the "Wikimedia Foundation". Her being, her experiences, her reputation... all are "imprinted" equally on the WMF.

I like that.

Greg
guy
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 11th February 2008, 6:08pm) *

QUOTE(guy @ Mon 11th February 2008, 6:13am) *

And not finding it and wondering why. Own goal?

What do you mean by "Own goal?", Guy?

I mean they'll wonder why there isn't an article on her, and maybe they'll poke about a bit and find out.
thekohser
QUOTE(guy @ Mon 11th February 2008, 6:29pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 11th February 2008, 6:08pm) *

QUOTE(guy @ Mon 11th February 2008, 6:13am) *

And not finding it and wondering why. Own goal?

What do you mean by "Own goal?", Guy?

I mean they'll wonder why there isn't an article on her, and maybe they'll poke about a bit and find out.


Yeah, but if they go to Google News Archive, they'll also find salted earth there, and probably give up. This is very troubling to me. I guess Carolyn Doran either has connections, or the WMF is exercising theirs on her behalf.

Greg
wikiwhistle
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif no sign of her on google news either? ohmy.gif
Somey
QUOTE(wikiwhistle @ Mon 11th February 2008, 8:55pm) *
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif no sign of her on google news either? ohmy.gif

Seriously! Considering that Ms. Doran's father was some sort of CIA guy, that's going to get the conspiracy types all riled up fairly readily, I should think. They had to have done something to drop those links out of Google News - but without anyone admitting to being the "they" in question, they're just going to create a lot of speculation, which will probably just make things worse for Carolyn Doran, and probably for the WMF as well.

Guy's analogy to an "own goal" is quite apt, I'd say - and not just in this instance! They're constantly kicking the ol' soccer ball in the wrong direction, and the keeper's usually off on holiday somewhere, or giving speeches to packed coffee houses (and meat places!) in Timbuktu.

Not that I have anything against Timbuktu, of course... I'm sure it's a lovely town...
thekohser
QUOTE(wikiwhistle @ Mon 11th February 2008, 9:55pm) *

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif no sign of her on google news either? ohmy.gif


That's correct. Aren't you paying attention to other threads, wikiwhistle?

Greg
Piperdown
so the Doran event is still down the googlenews blackhole? weird.

back on the thread, is that tool just limited to Dec-Jan? I didn't see Feb on the menu of it.
thekohser
QUOTE(Piperdown @ Tue 12th February 2008, 4:04pm) *

so the Doran event is still down the googlenews blackhole? weird.

back on the thread, is that tool just limited to Dec-Jan? I didn't see Feb on the menu of it.


I asked the developer, and he said there's a bunch of manual stuff that he has to do before he can roll out another month, but he has no intention of stopping just with December and January.

Greg
thekohser
It's pretty interesting to note that the article for "hogtie bondage" gets nearly twice the page views as the article about "fudge"; and fudge is a really delicious treat!

Greg
guy
It must be the quality of the prose. mellow.gif
wikiwhistle
I must've missed the other thread about google, sorry.

My userpage got the most hits the day I commented on user Jimbo's talk page. Must be where a lot of people hang out lol, I prefer/prefered Giano's talk page. smile.gif
Cedric
Yikes! My old userpage got 54 hits last month. ZOMG! I'M BEING STALKED!! laugh.gif

Seriously though, I was a pretty obscure user on WP. unsure.gif
guy
Speaking of Hogtie bondage, Wipipedia was viewed 505 times in January even though it's a deleted page.
thekohser
QUOTE(guy @ Thu 14th February 2008, 6:57pm) *

Speaking of Hogtie bondage, Wipipedia was viewed 505 times in January even though it's a deleted page.


Similarly scary is the viewing of the "Kohs" page. I wonder how many of them are looking for Keystone Oaks High School?
thekohser
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 12th February 2008, 5:54pm) *

QUOTE(Piperdown @ Tue 12th February 2008, 4:04pm) *

...back on the thread, is that tool just limited to Dec-Jan? I didn't see Feb on the menu of it.


I asked the developer, and he said there's a bunch of manual stuff that he has to do before he can roll out another month, but he has no intention of stopping just with December and January.

Greg


February data has been added to the article traffic tool. So, now it's easy to document the death of "History of western Eurasia".

That article took two AfD's to get it removed. And now look, maybe 1 person a day is looking for it. Even Carolyn Doran has 5 or 6 people a day searching for her.

Greg

thekohser
I think an interesting test of this tool, and of the power of Wikipedia Review, would be to take an infrequently-viewed page, and then send our peeps to it, repeatedly...

Oh my God! I just found a page on Wikipedia that has pictures of JzG in a compromising location in England with Angela Beesley!

Click here, like 20 times!










Then in March 2008, click here to see results.
Viridae
Lol the effects of an article on DYK: http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/Liasis%20olivaceus
thekohser
QUOTE(Viridae @ Thu 28th February 2008, 4:42pm) *

Lol the effects of an article on DYK: http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/Liasis%20olivaceus


That's a great find, Viridae. I'll bet half of those visitors were looking for a delicious, cream underbelly.

This underscores something -- what Wikipedia could earn if it had even one small advertisement on the Main Page. Don't you think a DYK gets about the same number of clicks as would a well-placed advert? 4,500 clicks in two days would equate to maybe $1,400. Now imagine contextual ads on EVERY page. Damn, the mind reels.

Viridae
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 29th February 2008, 8:57am) *

QUOTE(Viridae @ Thu 28th February 2008, 4:42pm) *

Lol the effects of an article on DYK: http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/Liasis%20olivaceus


That's a great find, Viridae. I'll bet half of those visitors were looking for a delicious, cream underbelly.

This underscores something -- what Wikipedia could earn if it had even one small advertisement on the Main Page. Don't you think a DYK gets about the same number of clicks as would a well-placed advert? 4,500 clicks in two days would equate to maybe $1,400. Now imagine contextual ads on EVERY page. Damn, the mind reels.


Oh i know - someone pointed out a while back that WP should go for profit, have ads and give the revenue to charity - oxfam, medicans sans frontiers, amnesty international etc etc

Main page stats: http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/Main%20page
guy
QUOTE(Viridae @ Thu 28th February 2008, 9:59pm) *

Huge day-of-week effect. Lots of people don't look at it on weekends.
thekohser
Another interesting case of news hype -- traffic stats for Raul Castro.

Oh, and then there's this amazing page.

Greg
UserB
It also does special:contributions.

So here's how many people have checked out Jimbo's edits: http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/special:con...s/Jimbo%20Wales

Archtransit was quite the subject of curiosity during that particular controversy: http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/Special:Con...ons/Archtransit

jorge
QUOTE(UserB @ Fri 29th February 2008, 4:25am) *

It also does special:contributions.

So here's how many people have checked out Jimbo's edits: http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/special:con...s/Jimbo%20Wales

SlimVirgin's much more popular ph34r.gif
Random832
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 29th February 2008, 2:49am) *

Another interesting case of news hype -- traffic stats for Raul Castro.


Only indirectly - directly, I suspect the traffic was driven by the fact that his article was linked (and pictured until today) from the main page since the 24th, and Fidel's retirement was on it since the 19th before that. Now, of course, the news did drive those choices, since it is the "In The News" section.
Krimpet
It works on [[Special:Blockip]] too. blink.gif

Were people itching to block me throughout the month? mad.gif
Kato
QUOTE(Krimpet @ Fri 29th February 2008, 8:26pm) *

It works on [[Special:Blockip]] too. blink.gif

Were people itching to block me throughout the month? mad.gif

FORUM Image
"IT!"

FORUM Image
"WAS!!"

FORUM Image
"ME!!!"
Krimpet
QUOTE(Kato @ Fri 29th February 2008, 3:58pm) *

QUOTE(Krimpet @ Fri 29th February 2008, 8:26pm) *

It works on [[Special:Blockip]] too. blink.gif

Were people itching to block me throughout the month? mad.gif

"IT!"

"WAS!!"

"ME!!!"


Jimbo's far from immune. tongue.gif

On the other hand, our readers' intense interest in Gynecomastia 001.jpg is astounding laugh.gif
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