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Vintagekits
IS there any recourse to stop abusive admins or are you just stuffed?
Neil
At the risk of sounding hopelessly naive here, as I'm sure many WR members have no faith whatsoever in Wikipedia's dispute resolution process, open an RFC on the admin in question, and if there's a reasonable consensus that the admin abused their tools, file an ArbCom case to get them desysopped.
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QUOTE(Vintagekits @ Mon 10th March 2008, 6:33pm) *

IS there any recourse to stop abusive admins or are you just stuffed?


Genuinely abusive admins do sometimes lose their powers, through direct intervention by a steward if the need is pressing and through an arbcom case if it is not. Some abusive admins manage to escape their just deserts through backroom dealings and connections with the powerful; this is a problem but there's not much you can do about it. The records are visible at Wikipedia:Requests for de-adminship.

are you looking for practical advice, or is this a purely hypothetical question?
Jonny Cache
QUOTE(Vintagekits @ Mon 10th March 2008, 1:33pm) *

IS there any recourse to stop abusive admins or are you just stuffed?


Just inform him of the fact that the actor who plays Powers is not really British but is in fact Canadian, and he'll toss out all his Power DVDs — that's an old-fashioned form of underwear — ¼with.

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gomi
QUOTE(Vintagekits @ Mon 10th March 2008, 11:33am) *
IS there any recourse to stop abusive admins or are you just stuffed?
Trick said administrator into using his super-powers against the Cabal, or in a case that the Cabal (or someone under their protection) cares about.

For example, convince said admin to ub-ban WordBomb. That would do it.
Piperdown
or better yet, commit AdminCyde and convince an admin that SlimVirgin really did doublevote, triplesock, edit BLP's of people who fired her without disclosing her COI, WP:CANVASSTORPEDO Rfa's of editors who madeherlookbad, aid and abet outings of WP'ians (lol), and ban edit war opponents for not bowing to the Queen. Which she did, all.

And find User:PatrickByrne's recent edits confronting SlimVirgin's Real World COI in the Byrne-Weiss War, and get that admin to address it, on-WP, in writing.

That would really do it.

Or how about posting Jimmy's emails to the dramactically-departed Nathan about JzG and his behaviour. That might do it too.

Or post on Jimmy's talk page a Q about what he is doing to address Jayjg's abuse of Oversight, Meat "Got my back?" Puppeting, and Disruptive "Allegations of...." editing....
Gold heart
QUOTE(Vintagekits @ Mon 10th March 2008, 6:33pm) *

IS there any recourse to stop abusive admins or are you just stuffed?


I think he must be a secret admirer of yours, Vk. No less than 20 edits about you this last 24 hours, here. WOW, there's something going on in that brain of his. Try sending him a billet-doux. biggrin.gif


On a much more serious note, nearly every editor is sick to the teeth of this admins homilies. Really, he adds little to WP except a bellyful of self-righteous mutterings. WP will breath better without him.

kk
D.A.F.
QUOTE(Vintagekits @ Mon 10th March 2008, 2:33pm) *

IS there any recourse to stop abusive admins or are you just stuffed?


Depends who is abusive and who is the victim of the abuse.
Moulton
In either event, there is no known method for stopping abusive admins.
WhispersOfWisdom
QUOTE(Vintagekits @ Mon 10th March 2008, 3:33pm) *

IS there any recourse to stop abusive admins or are you just stuffed?


How about a real live RFC on JzG?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req..._Kirill_Lokshin





Here is an example of over 50 established editors that cannot get rid of one of the most abusive administrators to have ever existed on Wikipedia. Breaking the rules is excused by Jimbo as there are no rules, or, simply ignore same. ohmy.gif

Good luck getting that to the feaux court at Arbcom. where there are feaux lawyers and feaux laws.
Count DeMonet
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QUOTE(Count DeMonet @ Mon 10th March 2008, 7:56pm) *

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It's true! laugh.gif You don't contribute to Uncyclopedia, do you, Count?

My experiences with dealing with an abusive admins is to hope another admin more abusive and more likely to "Ignore All Rules" comes along and undoes the others actions.

There a few really good administrators I would go to, as well.
Piperdown
QUOTE(WhispersOfWisdom @ Mon 10th March 2008, 10:50pm) *

QUOTE(Vintagekits @ Mon 10th March 2008, 3:33pm) *

IS there any recourse to stop abusive admins or are you just stuffed?


How about a real live RFC on JzG?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req..._Kirill_Lokshin


Here is an example of over 50 established editors that cannot get rid of one of the most abusive administrators to have ever existed on Wikipedia. Breaking the rules is excused by Jimbo as there are no rules, or, simply ignore same. ohmy.gif

Good luck getting that to the feaux court at Arbcom. where there are feaux lawyers and feaux laws.


JzG's adminship is right at that point in Goodfellas where Joe JzG Pesci's thuggery is still a benefit to the family. Any more going apeshit around DeNiro's casino, and IPTittie trolling, and it's his adminship gets wikibatted by 4 badmins and thrown into a wikidesert hole.

Does JzG -amuse- you, WP? Because right now is it embarrasing da wikifamily. At least he hasn't wikishot any of the young admins in the foot yet just to watch them dance....

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JzG, stop telling newbies to the casino to "f-ck off, you turd burglaring c-nt!"
Achromatic
QUOTE(Piperdown @ Mon 10th March 2008, 5:04pm) *


JzG's adminship is right at that point in Goodfellas where Joe JzG Pesci's thuggery is still a benefit to the family. Any more going apeshit around DeNiro's casino, and IPTittie trolling, and it's his adminship gets wikibatted by 4 badmins and thrown into a wikidesert hole.

Does JzG -amuse- you, WP? Because right now is it embarrasing da wikifamily. At least he hasn't wikishot any of the young admins in the foot yet just to watch them dance....

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JzG, stop telling newbies to the casino to "f-ck off, you turd burglaring c-nt!"


You mean Casino, right, not Goodfellas? The one where DeNiro runs a ... y'know ... casino... smile.gif
Piperdown
ya mean dose are different movies? oh yeah. it's hard to tell, 15 years out, ain't it? i picked a bad week to stop quaffing draughts...first the oscar(s) and now the scorseses....i'd go to WP to straighten out my facts, but i think that would just make it worse....

I have to remember that it was Liotta=Goodfellas, Stone=Casino, because Pesci was the same in both movies ;-)
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