Several off-topic posts were split by yours truly,
Unka Somey, into a new thread which I then moved into the tar pit, and gave a completely obscurantist title, just so I could "keep in practice."
Meanwhile, further discussion of this topic appears to be concentrated
in what appears to be a much more interesting thread, though I see no reason not to keep this thread open for the time being.
And no, I'm not the least bit surprised, personally...