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the fieryangel
Going from Milton's No true scotsman example, I discovered another delightful article entitled True Scotsman which is apparently a reference to the practice of Scotmen not wearing underwear under their kilts. The article itself says that the expressions "go regimental" or "military practice" are used to describe this and that Highland athletes and dancers are required to wear undergarments under their kilts. So, apparently some Scotsmen do wear something under their kilts, but never mind about that....

From here, you can go to the Going commando article, which refers to just anybody (but of course, particularly people in the BDSM community) who doesn't wear underwear. Of course, this expression must be notable, since somebody said it once on the Sitcom "Friends"....The opening paragraph is a delightfully phrased exposé of the term :

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Going commando (or to go commando or "free balling") is the practice of not wearing underwear under one's outer clothing. The phrase and phenomenon is often used in a declaratory way ("I'm goin' commando!"), particularly by women to covertly create a frisson of sexual excitement or amusement amongst friends, sexual partners, future sexual partners, etc. Modern Western social mores generally recognise "going commando" as a "playful" behavior (akin to a mild form of exhibitionism).[citation needed]


...The citation needed tag is particularly charming here, don't you think? We also learn that sleeping without underwear can have significant benefits to the vulva, although it is not clear what this has to do with going commando.

Continuing our journey into the nether regions, we have the wonderfully tasteful and well-illustrated Upskirt article, which deals mainly with whether or not it is legal to take "upskirt" photos of women in various places...We also learn that "Upskirt" is a noun", and not an adjective...and probably a verb too...The "Upskirt" article used to be much worse, of course and included several links to the Cameltoe article, which features a photo of a camel's toes (I guess that the real thing didn't deserve its own article as in "Cameltoe (camel)?) and a photo of a cameltoe which is not a camel's toe...The "Cameltoe" article explains why Cameltoe (note that cameltoe is always singular, as opposed to camels' toes which are not...) takes place:

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The causes of cameltoe are not always obvious.[3][4] Cameltoe commonly occurs as a result of wearing clothing under the following conditions:

* Exercise shorts, stretch pants and leggings — including spandex[citation needed]
* Very tight-fitting jeans, shorts, hotpants, underwear, or swimwear[4]

However, some fashion analysts have also identified clothing design as a cause, rather than its size. Cameltoe may thus be exacerbated by:

* Jeans design[5]
* Garments with a tight central seam that serves to divide the labia majora[6


Boy, I never would have guessed any of that in a million years...

Not to change the subject, but going from Upskirt, we logically come to Downblouse which doesn't have any photos at all and which has a no sources tag on it! That doesn't seem particularly fair to those who prefer Downblouse photos to Upskirt ones, especially since Cleavage (breasts) is extremely well illustrated (even with its own gallery). This burning issue has been a source of a great deal of discussion regarding whether various images proposed were indeed legal. It is probably not likely that a legal "Downblouse" photo will be ever available, which seems a great shame...

However, Downblouse does have a particularly informative opening paragraph :

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A downblouse is a form of voyeurism enjoyed by those who are attracted to women, in which they seek a view of a woman's breasts down her shirt or blouse, particularly when she is bending over without regard for the fact that her shirt is loose around her neck. To the voyeur, downblousing is often considered most enjoyable when the breasts being viewed turn out to be bare; i.e., when the woman is not wearing a bra.


Note that downblouse is also a noun, not an adjective. I wonder if you can also say "I downbloused her"? I suppose that you probably can't say "I downbloused him"? Well, maybe on Wikipedia...

All of this makes me wonder what the legendary poor child in Africa is going to think when those crank-operated laptops arrive?

Keep up the great work, people!
Saltimbanco
Wikipedia: the scum of all human knowledge.

What's there is not so galling as that they've gussied it up and convinced people that it's respectable.
Dzonatas
Cleavage!


I mean clever!
Milton Roe
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 2nd August 2008, 3:22am) *

Not to change the subject, but going from Upskirt, we logically come to Downblouse which doesn't have any photos at all and which has a no sources tag on it! That doesn't seem particularly fair to those who prefer Downblouse photos to Upskirt ones, especially since Cleavage (breasts) is extremely well illustrated (even with its own gallery). This burning issue has been a source of a great deal of discussion regarding whether various images proposed were indeed legal. It is probably not likely that a legal "Downblouse" photo will be ever available, which seems a great shame...

Er, that depends on how much breast is visible. AFAIK, you can show the entire topside of the breast down to the beginning the areola even on network television. It's the areola, nipple, and of course the underside where the Spanishmoss grows, which remains verboten.
Dzonatas
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 2nd August 2008, 10:19am) *

Er, that depends on how much breast is visible. AFAIK, you can show the entire topside of the breast down to the beginning the areola even on network television. It's the areola, nipple, and of course the underside where the Spanishmoss grows, which remains verboten.


I'm standing on my head to make sure I don't violate that downblouse logic!

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the fieryangel
You know, I think that I've invented an interesting exercise here: the WIKIPEDIA DAISY CHAIN:

You start with a lame article and you follow the "see also" section articles to see if they're as lame as the first one....and you see how far you can go.

Shall we start a "best Wikipedia Daisy chain" contest??
Milton Roe
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 2nd August 2008, 1:52pm) *

You know, I think that I've invented an interesting exercise here: the WIKIPEDIA DAISY CHAIN:

You start with a lame article and you follow the "see also" section articles to see if they're as lame as the first one....and you see how far you can go.

Shall we start a "best Wikipedia Daisy chain" contest??

My vote goes to Peerage. But that's because I'm from a country where we fought a war more than two centuries ago to get rid of all those layers of social crap (and look how many there are in the daisy chain). Barf. tongue.gif Gag. Me.

But this is NOT the kind of thing I was talking about which is a waste of time because not properly indexed, and/or was written by somebody who has a fettish for pickle relish on their ice cream. No, this is all nicely indexed and most is well-written, and the articles make sense as topics, so I'd leave it right where it is. It's just that I personally DONTLIKEIT. You asked for votes for lame nested articles. The LAME in peerage is in the eye of the beholder.*

MR

*For example, I know people who go weak in the knees for titles, uniforms, a great tux. I think it's a reflex women have, which also draws up one or both legs, and it's kind of like the lordotic arch in many quadrupeds in heat....
Eva Destruction
Ok, here's one; all done from links in the "see also" section, aside from the one list.

Cat meat ("Cats are eaten in Switzerland"?)
→ Taboo food and drink (parts are fine, parts are embarrassingly bad)
→ Ital
→ Vegetarianism (surprisingly bad, considering how many people have worked on it – it suffers from an overdose of experts – when I see "certain algae such as spirulina are good sources of gamma-linolenic acid, alpha-linolenic acid, linoleic acid, stearidonic acid, eicosapentaenoic acid, docosahexaenoic acid, and arachidonic acid" in an article aimed at the general reader, I glaze over)
→ List of diets (unfair to include this one as it does exactly what it says)
→ Hacker's Diet.
the fieryangel
QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Sat 2nd August 2008, 10:03pm) *

Ok, here's one; all done from links in the "see also" section, aside from the one list.

Cat meat ("Cats are eaten in Switzerland"?)
→ Taboo food and drink (parts are fine, parts are embarrassingly bad)
→ Ital
→ Vegetarianism (surprisingly bad, considering how many people have worked on it – it suffers from an overdose of experts – when I see "certain algae such as spirulina are good sources of gamma-linolenic acid, alpha-linolenic acid, linoleic acid, stearidonic acid, eicosapentaenoic acid, docosahexaenoic acid, and arachidonic acid" in an article aimed at the general reader, I glaze over)
→ List of diets (unfair to include this one as it does exactly what it says)
→ Hacker's Diet.


that's very good! In "Taboo food and drink" I liked :

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Human meat

Main article: Cannibalism

Of all the taboo meat, human flesh ranks as the most proscribed. Historically, humans have consumed the flesh of fellow humans in rituals and out of insanity, hatred, or overriding hunger — almost never as a common part of their diet. This consumption of human flesh is forbidden in Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism, as well as most other religions.


Off to make myself a "cannibal sandwich" before bed....

I'm sure that there are others! People, get to work!
Milton Roe
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 2nd August 2008, 3:15pm) *

that's very good! In "Taboo food and drink" I liked :

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Human meat

Main article: Cannibalism

Of all the taboo meat, human flesh ranks as the most proscribed. Historically, humans have consumed the flesh of fellow humans in rituals and out of insanity, hatred, or overriding hunger — almost never as a common part of their diet. This consumption of human flesh is forbidden in Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism, as well as most other religions.


Off to make myself a "cannibal sandwich" before bed....

I'm sure that there are others! People, get to work!


But is that even accurate? I'm sure that in Judaism you can eat whatever you must to keep yourself alive in an emergency if that is your only choice, given that the person you're consuming is already dead, and you didn't kill him for his calories. (Like that incident with the football team in the plane crash in the Andes).

As for Christianity, that's hilarious! Forbidden? Explicit cannibalism is part of the eucharist! Catholics believe in transubstantiation which means they think it isn't even a pure metaphor, but some kind of more literal thing. Son-of-God-tissue-from-a-cracker: the other OTHER white meat.
Saltimbanco
Good game, TFA. But I think "Six Degrees of Wikipedia Pornography" might be more fun.
the fieryangel
QUOTE(Saltimbanco @ Sat 2nd August 2008, 10:42pm) *

Good game, TFA. But I think "Six Degrees of Wikipedia Pornography" might be more fun.


Hey, be my guest! I'd be willing to try that one myself!
Eva Destruction
OK, here's a nice long daisy-chain of bad articles, virtually none of which have anything resembling a source. Again, all from "see also" only. The titles read like chapter headings for a novel.

Prostitution in the Palestinian territories
→ Rent boys
→ Sex tourism
→ Tourist apartheid (redirects to Tourism in Cuba)
→ Intershop
→ Baltona
→ Pewex
→ Shortage economy
→ Consumer goods in the Soviet Union
→ Economy of the Soviet Union
→ History of the Soviet Union (no thing wrong with this, it's just a disambig page
→ Soviet Historiography
→ Criticisms of Communist party rule which is, finally, a good quality, informative, balanced article.
Saltimbanco
Here we go! Six Degrees of Wikipedia Pornography:

Squirt (TV series) (No, in spite of how it sounds, that is not pornographic)
→ 3D animation
→ Amateur
→ Home movies (You gotta know I'm getting close ...)
→ Celebrity sex tape (There were actually several options, but I haven't heard much about Paris Hilton in the news lately, so ... you know)
→ 1 Night in Paris (OK, this is an article on a porn film, so arguably, I'm done, but it seems a little weak for a Jimbo Wales sponsored website, so one more step for something more graphic ...)
→ vaginal (... and there we have it. "Fellatio" was also an option, but the picture was less detailed.)
Milton Roe
QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Sat 2nd August 2008, 3:45pm) *

OK, here's a nice long daisy-chain of bad articles, virtually none of which have anything resembling a source. Again, all from "see also" only. The titles read like chapter headings for a novel.

Prostitution in the Palestinian territories
→ Rent boys
→ Sex tourism
→ Tourist apartheid (redirects to Tourism in Cuba)
→ Intershop
→ Baltona
→ Pewex
→ Shortage economy
→ Consumer goods in the Soviet Union
→ Economy of the Soviet Union
→ History of the Soviet Union (no thing wrong with this, it's just a disambig page
→ Soviet Historiography
→ Criticisms of Communist party rule which is, finally, a good quality, informative, balanced article.

On another thread: Total enclosure fetishism The "See also" links are:
*[[Bondage (BDSM)]]
*[[BDSM]]
*[[Mummification (BDSM)]]

Internal links are to:

[[Latex and PVC fetishism|rubber fetishism]]
[[Latex clothing|rubber suit]]s, [[gas mask]]s,
[[Vacuum bed]]s (with a small breathing tube).
[[Sleepsack (BDSM)|Sleepsack]]s and
[[body bag]]s
[[spandex fetishism]],
[[zentai]] suits
[[Polyvinyl chloride|PVC]] garment
[[claustrophobic]]
[[positional asphyxia]], and...


[[erotic asphyxiation]]!!

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