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carbuncle
An excerpt from a longer message to the Foundation-L mailing list by Greg Maxwell:
QUOTE

Lets take a category of Penis images as an example. Load it up.
Hundreds of penii. Pretty shocking. We can obviously cut back on this,
right? How many penis images do we really need to meet the mission of
the Wikipedias? (and then we need to consider the more expansive
mission of commons in educating through media).

Well, we ought to have circumcised, and uncircumcised. Flaccid and
erect. An example of each kind of penis jewellery that has a WP
article in some language. An example of every disease with
penis-visible symptoms.... We're easily at 50-100 images already.
People seem to think we also need many of the prior samples from
multiple races to demonstrate the (lack of) differences. Add a little
further inflation because editorial preferences on the Wikipedias will
differ.

So on the basis of meeting the Wikipedia's need alone, we're up to
hundreds of pictures of penises. Now— commons' hundreds are not so
diverse, we need fewer of some kinds and more of others, but in terms
of the sheer count even before considering commons' own educational
remit we still need a bunch.

Where does this place us in terms of our problem statements? Well,
With hundreds of pictures in the category it will be easy to cast
commons as a penis palace. Thus, in terms of this class of images—
problem (1) is probably unsolvable given our educational mission. If
someone wants to point to the category and inspire the "Oh my god;
it's full of cocks" response, they can...
I think that Maxwell has concisely explained the situation at the Wikimedia Commons in a way that the layman can understand and this passage should be reprinted verbatim in any newspaper covering this situation.
Ottava
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 9th May 2010, 4:17pm) *

An excerpt from a longer message to the Foundation-L mailing list by Greg Maxwell:
QUOTE

Lets take a category of Penis images as an example. Load it up.
Hundreds of penii. Pretty shocking. We can obviously cut back on this,
right? How many penis images do we really need to meet the mission of
the Wikipedias? (and then we need to consider the more expansive
mission of commons in educating through media).

Well, we ought to have circumcised, and uncircumcised. Flaccid and
erect. An example of each kind of penis jewellery that has a WP
article in some language. An example of every disease with
penis-visible symptoms.... We're easily at 50-100 images already.
People seem to think we also need many of the prior samples from
multiple races to demonstrate the (lack of) differences. Add a little
further inflation because editorial preferences on the Wikipedias will
differ.

So on the basis of meeting the Wikipedia's need alone, we're up to
hundreds of pictures of penises. Now— commons' hundreds are not so
diverse, we need fewer of some kinds and more of others, but in terms
of the sheer count even before considering commons' own educational
remit we still need a bunch.

Where does this place us in terms of our problem statements? Well,
With hundreds of pictures in the category it will be easy to cast
commons as a penis palace. Thus, in terms of this class of images—
problem (1) is probably unsolvable given our educational mission. If
someone wants to point to the category and inspire the "Oh my god;
it's full of cocks" response, they can...
I think that Maxwell has concisely explained the situation at the Wikimedia Commons in a way that the layman can understand and this passage should be reprinted verbatim in any newspaper covering this situation.


Why exactly does there have to be uncircumcised and circumsized and every combination? A penis is a penis. Sex ed seems to get by just fine with having a black and white generic pencil sketch.
Herschelkrustofsky
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 9th May 2010, 9:17am) *

An excerpt from a longer message to the Foundation-L mailing list by Greg Maxwell:
QUOTE

Well, With hundreds of pictures in the category it will be easy to cast
commons as a penis palace.
Mission accomplished.
CharlotteWebb
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 9th May 2010, 4:17pm) *

I think that Maxwell has concisely explained the situation at the Wikimedia Commons in a way that the layman can understand and this passage should be reprinted verbatim in any newspaper covering this situation.

You forget mainstream newspapers in Amerika mustn't acknowledge that genitals exist. bored.gif
TungstenCarbide
QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 4:50pm) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 9th May 2010, 4:17pm) *

An excerpt from a longer message to the Foundation-L mailing list by Greg Maxwell:
QUOTE

Lets take a category of Penis images as an example. Load it up.
Hundreds of penii. Pretty shocking. We can obviously cut back on this,
right? How many penis images do we really need to meet the mission of
the Wikipedias? (and then we need to consider the more expansive
mission of commons in educating through media).

Well, we ought to have circumcised, and uncircumcised. Flaccid and
erect. An example of each kind of penis jewellery that has a WP
article in some language. An example of every disease with
penis-visible symptoms.... We're easily at 50-100 images already.
People seem to think we also need many of the prior samples from
multiple races to demonstrate the (lack of) differences. Add a little
further inflation because editorial preferences on the Wikipedias will
differ.

So on the basis of meeting the Wikipedia's need alone, we're up to
hundreds of pictures of penises. Now— commons' hundreds are not so
diverse, we need fewer of some kinds and more of others, but in terms
of the sheer count even before considering commons' own educational
remit we still need a bunch.

Where does this place us in terms of our problem statements? Well,
With hundreds of pictures in the category it will be easy to cast
commons as a penis palace. Thus, in terms of this class of images—
problem (1) is probably unsolvable given our educational mission. If
someone wants to point to the category and inspire the "Oh my god;
it's full of cocks" response, they can...
I think that Maxwell has concisely explained the situation at the Wikimedia Commons in a way that the layman can understand and this passage should be reprinted verbatim in any newspaper covering this situation.


Why exactly does there have to be uncircumcised and circumsized and every combination? A penis is a penis. Sex ed seems to get by just fine with having a black and white generic pencil sketch.

Maxwell's way off on this, he totally forgot about horses and rhinoceroses.
Moulton
QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sun 9th May 2010, 1:54pm) *
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 9th May 2010, 9:17am) *
An excerpt from a longer message to the Foundation-L mailing list by Greg Maxwell:
QUOTE
Well, With hundreds of pictures in the category it will be easy to cast commons as a penis palace.
Emission accomplished.

What hath Jimbo erected?
Milton Roe
QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 9:50am) *

Why exactly does there have to be uncircumcised and circumsized and every combination? A penis is a penis.

Boy, that's not what my Jewish date told ME. Ottava, you need to get out more.
Ottava
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 10th May 2010, 7:26am) *

QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 9:50am) *

Why exactly does there have to be uncircumcised and circumsized and every combination? A penis is a penis.

Boy, that's not what my Jewish date told ME. Ottava, you need to get out more.


Bah.

My point is, with such nonsense standards, they could argue that there needs to be 3 billion penii on Commons because every man's penis is unique in some manner, even if subtle.
CharlotteWebb
QUOTE(Ottava @ Mon 10th May 2010, 2:12pm) *

My point is, with such nonsense standards, they could argue that there needs to be 3 billion penii on Commons because every man's penis is unique in some manner, even if subtle.

Yet none would challenge your claim to the WP Dick of Distinction award.
thekohser
QUOTE(Ottava @ Mon 10th May 2010, 10:12am) *

...they could argue that there needs to be 3 billion penii on Commons because every man's penis is unique in some manner, even if subtle.


This is Wikimedia, though... so, we're probably looking at about 3.0017 billion, to be inclusive of the trannies.
Ottava
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Mon 10th May 2010, 2:54pm) *

QUOTE(Ottava @ Mon 10th May 2010, 2:12pm) *

My point is, with such nonsense standards, they could argue that there needs to be 3 billion penii on Commons because every man's penis is unique in some manner, even if subtle.

Yet none would challenge your claim to the WP Dick of Distinction award.


You know, I've been this way for two years and I haven't gotten anywhere in that award. When push comes to shove, I'm sure people see much worse people than me. tongue.gif

QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 10th May 2010, 2:58pm) *

QUOTE(Ottava @ Mon 10th May 2010, 10:12am) *

...they could argue that there needs to be 3 billion penii on Commons because every man's penis is unique in some manner, even if subtle.


This is Wikimedia, though... so, we're probably looking at about 3.0017 billion, to be inclusive of the trannies.


... you have a good point. For some reason, I now wonder how many "tranny" penises (are they prosthetic? god, I don't want to know) are on Commons but I don't want to do a search.

I'm going to go cry now. ;/
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