I think Preem Palver would have a fit.
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Anyone want to compare and contrast Isaac Asimov's Encyclopedia Galactica Foundation with the Wikipedia Foundation?
I think Preem Palver would have a fit.
I think Preem Palver would have a fit.
QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Tue 25th May 2010, 6:36pm) 
QUOTE(Moulton @ Tue 25th May 2010, 11:35pm)
QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Tue 25th May 2010, 6:20pm)
A rational person would be quite capable of asking for a clarification without the stupid rants.
True enough, but remember that Ottava is steeped in the irrationality of WikiCulture, where gently asking for a clarification is a rather futile act.Which begs the question of best practices for introducing the novel concept of rational and civil discourse to a constituency that is not familiar with it.
QUOTE(Moulton @ Tue 25th May 2010, 10:40pm)
Which begs the question of best practices for introducing the novel concept of rational and civil discourse to a constituency that is not familiar with it.
It probably would require violating the same principles you seek to establish. Fact is, most wouldn't think twice about it.
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Tue 25th May 2010, 6:52pm)
QUOTE(Moulton @ Tue 25th May 2010, 10:40pm)
Which begs the question of best practices for introducing the novel concept of rational and civil discourse to a constituency that is not familiar with it.
It probably would require violating the same principles you seek to establish. Fact is, most wouldn't think twice about it.I don't believe that it cannot be done without resorting to uncivil or irrational practices along the way. But it may require the use of storycraft as a medium of introduction to the concept. Something like the Pooh stories, for example.
QUOTE(Zoloft @ Tue 25th May 2010, 4:37pm)
Anyone want to compare and contrast Isaac Asimov's Encyclopedia Galactica Foundation with the Wikipedia Foundation?
I think Preem Palver would have a fit.
I think that is why Wikipedian fall into the use of The Foundation when referring to WMF. Also recall IA's Foundation was also a complete scam.
QUOTE(Moulton @ Tue 25th May 2010, 11:00pm)
I don't believe that it cannot be done without resorting to uncivil or irrational practices along the way. But it may require the use of storycraft as a medium of introduction to the concept. Something like the Pooh stories, for example.
Yup, something like that.
The Foundation relied upon the vague, holographic messages from their Founder to let them know they were on the right track, but only after the crisis.
That way it wasn't their Vault.
That way it wasn't their Vault.
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