Written by Nicole Ferraro
6/3/2010 - Internet Evolution
Other than Nicole Ferraro's frustrating use of "founder of Wikipedia" to describe Jimmy Wales (I think she actually knows this is an inside joke now), this is a fantastic article, well worth the read. I hope, especially, that my hard-worked comment gets posted and remains in place.
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Michael Singer:
Somehow Jimmy Wales crying about too much transparency doesn't sound convincing.
If Wikipedia had more transparency from the beginning, then perhaps they wouldn't have had half the reputation issues that they spent the last four years overcoming.
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Gregory Kohs:
I couldn't agree more, Michael.
In fact, I would argue that what Jimbo's complaining about here are transparency matters that MAKE HIM LOOK BAD. For example, why is he so concerned about property records in Florida? Could it have anything to do with the fact that it was recently discovered that Jimbo tweets from the Golden Acres trailer park in Dunedin, Florida?
(http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=29419 )
Or, is it possible that he's uncomfortable with Florida real estate records because it makes it so easy to learn about Jimbo's past and continued business partner, Michael E. Davis? That's right, until you understand that the first Treasurer of the Wikimedia Foundation was actively trying to hide from a judgment of $800,000+ against him (so much so, a court found him to be in contempt), and that he remains the Chief Operating Officer of Jimbo's Wikia, Inc., we're just spinning our wheels. But, when you can look up in the Florida property records and learn that Davis moved from Illinois to Florida in order to protect his assets in the form of a $1,000,000+ home (http://www.pcpao.org/?pg=http://www.pcpao....109834660010500 ) that Brian Dowling's successful judgment couldn't touch... and that Davis gave his attorney a very large sum of money as an "advance" on undetermined future services, that an appeals court struggled to determine was also therefore out of reach of Dowling... you get an altogether better understanding of Jimbo's business partners.
Next, why is Jimbo so concerned about the sex offender database issue? I wonder if anyone close to him has a personal interest in underage sexual issues? Oh, wait -- there's Wikimedia Foundation Deputy Director, Erik Moeller, isn't there? He has a long history of championing the "rights" of children to have sex with other (often much older) youth under the age of 18. Sounds crazy, but it's all there in writing:
(http://groups.google.com/group/netscape.pu...en&dmode=source )
"Can you present any research that shows that pornography is harmful to children? If they are looking for it, why not let them have some fun? The more sexuality is integrated into everyday life the better. What about kiddie porn? It does exist on the net, just as it exists in real life. There is absolutely no reason for net censorship..." -- Erik Moeller
(http://web.archive.org/web/20010408185149/...3/19/205824/188 )
"...sexual preference is determined very early, if not at birth, and that sexual desire can be satisfied by looking at pictures. In other words, letting paedos look at child pornography is likely to stop them from committing real crimes." -- Erik Moeller
This is all a very disturbing collection of facts that point to a serious problem within the governance of the Wikimedia Foundation and the related for-profit Wikia project.
Meanwhile, Nicole, I enjoy your humorous label of Jimmy Wales as "founder of Wikipedia", when we all know he was the junior member of a pair of CO-FOUNDERS. Dr. Larry Sanger brought the idea of installing an open wiki to feed the encyclopedia project. Sanger named it "Wikipedia". Sanger sent out the first invitation for the public to participate. And Sanger crafted and fostered most of the key guidelines and policies that still undergird Wikipedia today. But somehow Jimbo is "the founder". It is to laugh.
Somehow Jimmy Wales crying about too much transparency doesn't sound convincing.
If Wikipedia had more transparency from the beginning, then perhaps they wouldn't have had half the reputation issues that they spent the last four years overcoming.
++++++++++++++++++++
Gregory Kohs:
I couldn't agree more, Michael.
In fact, I would argue that what Jimbo's complaining about here are transparency matters that MAKE HIM LOOK BAD. For example, why is he so concerned about property records in Florida? Could it have anything to do with the fact that it was recently discovered that Jimbo tweets from the Golden Acres trailer park in Dunedin, Florida?
(http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=29419 )
Or, is it possible that he's uncomfortable with Florida real estate records because it makes it so easy to learn about Jimbo's past and continued business partner, Michael E. Davis? That's right, until you understand that the first Treasurer of the Wikimedia Foundation was actively trying to hide from a judgment of $800,000+ against him (so much so, a court found him to be in contempt), and that he remains the Chief Operating Officer of Jimbo's Wikia, Inc., we're just spinning our wheels. But, when you can look up in the Florida property records and learn that Davis moved from Illinois to Florida in order to protect his assets in the form of a $1,000,000+ home (http://www.pcpao.org/?pg=http://www.pcpao....109834660010500 ) that Brian Dowling's successful judgment couldn't touch... and that Davis gave his attorney a very large sum of money as an "advance" on undetermined future services, that an appeals court struggled to determine was also therefore out of reach of Dowling... you get an altogether better understanding of Jimbo's business partners.
Next, why is Jimbo so concerned about the sex offender database issue? I wonder if anyone close to him has a personal interest in underage sexual issues? Oh, wait -- there's Wikimedia Foundation Deputy Director, Erik Moeller, isn't there? He has a long history of championing the "rights" of children to have sex with other (often much older) youth under the age of 18. Sounds crazy, but it's all there in writing:
(http://groups.google.com/group/netscape.pu...en&dmode=source )
"Can you present any research that shows that pornography is harmful to children? If they are looking for it, why not let them have some fun? The more sexuality is integrated into everyday life the better. What about kiddie porn? It does exist on the net, just as it exists in real life. There is absolutely no reason for net censorship..." -- Erik Moeller
(http://web.archive.org/web/20010408185149/...3/19/205824/188 )
"...sexual preference is determined very early, if not at birth, and that sexual desire can be satisfied by looking at pictures. In other words, letting paedos look at child pornography is likely to stop them from committing real crimes." -- Erik Moeller
This is all a very disturbing collection of facts that point to a serious problem within the governance of the Wikimedia Foundation and the related for-profit Wikia project.
Meanwhile, Nicole, I enjoy your humorous label of Jimmy Wales as "founder of Wikipedia", when we all know he was the junior member of a pair of CO-FOUNDERS. Dr. Larry Sanger brought the idea of installing an open wiki to feed the encyclopedia project. Sanger named it "Wikipedia". Sanger sent out the first invitation for the public to participate. And Sanger crafted and fostered most of the key guidelines and policies that still undergird Wikipedia today. But somehow Jimbo is "the founder". It is to laugh.
