Although I am enjoying Al's hilarious and by now extremely [ahem] notable sex scandal, there is nary a mention of it at his Wikipedia bio. That's because he is enjoying the full protection of the House POV.

Yep. If it Mel Gibson had been in a sex scandal, there would be an entire subarticle about it by now.

But WP has had its own ox "Gored" in public sex scandles by now, and they're well versed as to how to handle it.

Please, please, please, someone get "horny poodle" into Al Gore's lead and have it stick. Thanks.


A redirect from the page "horny poodle" to Al Gore would also be nice.

This is still all "he said she said," isn't it? As long as the article's a BLP, I personally don't care that he's a household name - they're doing the right thing by waiting for some actual proof to turn up.

Admittedly, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that he groped the masseuse, but I also wouldn't be surprised if the masseuse is exaggerating things quite a bit here in the hopes of scoring a financial windfall from the tabloids.

Finally, this is an important safety tip for celebrities who are roundly disliked by Corporate America: Always travel with your own masseuse.

3D recreation of the allegations, from a motivated Taiwanese news station;

That is, if you want a happy ending.

If her allegations are true she does society a disservice by making that choice. T$k t$k t$k.

For some reason jackpot justice is still a red link.

I should emphasize here that I am not arguing in favor of including Allegations Du Jour in BLP articles; I am merely noting the usual selective application of policy. In reading Kim D. Peterson's comment (As long as no charges have been filed, they are in fact unsubstantiated allegations. If charges are filed - then it is a different matter entirely. This is currently on the same headline/news level as: "I have a baby with X" where X is any prominent person.), I could not help but think of Death of Jeremiah Duggan (T-H-L-K-D).


That being said, I must take note of the fact that the following is comedy gold, especially the background music:

I agree, but the policy should be enforced more rabidly on other BLPs as opposed to the other way around. We're a gossip obsessed culture, and we have a huge media industry supporting this obsession. I'd go so far as to say that "news" items should be kept out of the Wiki entirely,especially if they meet some standard of controversy. The media, including the NYT and other major outlets, get stories wrong all the time. Given enough time these stories sort themselves out. By jumping on hot gossip and current news stories the encyclopedia constantly risks exposing the public to misinformation through a medium that people don't expect misinformation to come from.

I will ask those on here the same question I asked on the Al Gore talk page - name one a-political or conservative figure in a comparable situation with a comparable level of media coverage where mention of the allegations was not added to the article within a week.

I have long accepted that Wikipedia is going to have a very liberal POV, but this is ridiculous. It has long passed any reasonable threshold of notability. I'm not saying it should be turned into a bio where half of the article is about the allegation. I think it should have 1-2 sentences and link to an article about the story itself.

That's a good phrase, describes a LOT of tabloid "scandals" (though reserve judgement on this one*), maybe there's something already under Sueing=>for financial benefit or something like that? If not yeah it's about time someone wrote something about that social phenomenon in particular yeah, not sure when it started I'd say 90's it was originally a now and then thing in America you didn't hear about huge compensation/settlement stuff as much, then got serious with stuff like fatties suing mcdonalds then went outwards and upwards...

*(it's about 50:50, on one hand he has character to stand for him as being one of the few "famous" people that give a damn about the ecology of the human habitat, even though he's one of those people who could probably have an actual ivory tower if he wanted - on the other hand this is kinda stereotypical "old rich man"...)

edit: Apparently the story was offered to the media for one million before rather than going to the Police which seems a bit odd but could be just wanted to make the best of a bad thing knowing that it would get investigated and brought to jusice after anyway which is understandable... I won't decide who to get angry at one way another until all the facts are known, though am swaying on the general side of he probably did it since that stereotype exists for a reason. And also after all Michael Jackson escaped justice by paying off the people that accused him of paedophilia to withdraw from the case, same could happen here *if* it's true...

He said: Hello, mama!
She said: Eeek!

One of the more amusing things about this debate is what one user noticed about [[WP:WELLKNOWN]]. This section of the BLP policy gives as an example of what is appropriate to include in a biography a situation that is almost identical to this one:



Of course, the difference is that in the example, only the NYT has picked up the story, whereas in this case, basically every media outlet has picked it up.

bbc.co.uk/search/news/al_gore

Sorry ... basically every American media outlet has picked it up. Heck, MSNBC has picked it up [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/?id=11881780&q=Al+Gore&search=&p=1&st=1&sm=user] and they are probably the most liberal of our media outlets that are considered mainstream. (Although to be fair, I'm sure their website is nothing like Maddow, Olberman, etc.)

A bit odd??
The English gift for understatement, yes?

These people are absolute wizards! Communications genius like this should really be in charge of SETI. Brilliant!

there is a god.

Watch out for a new poodle trend emerge amongst the furries. Movie at 11.

Why is Taiwanese news so much more entertaining than ours? I hope the animation craze catches on over here. In a certain sense, because it is so over the top, it is actually less propagandistic than the Anglo-American news, where it is not always so obvious when images are being used to manipulate the viewer.