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Michael Snow is out and Phoebe Ayers (also known as the brass rat girl) is in.


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Phoebe Ayers


Press release WMF Announces Changes to the Board
TungstenCarbide
hmm, I wonder what anthere thinks of Ting being chair?
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/found...May/058020.html
GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sat 10th July 2010, 12:45pm) *

hmm, I wonder what anthere thinks of Ting being chair?
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/found...May/058020.html


When Flo and Ting Chen fight the English language is held hostage.

As far as I can make out Ting Chen took a pretty orthodox position concerning WMF role in the projects but Flo was pushing for an even more extreme autonomy (irresponsible) position. Anyone have a different reading?
RDH(Ghost In The Machine)
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sat 10th July 2010, 7:12pm) *

QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sat 10th July 2010, 12:45pm) *

hmm, I wonder what anthere thinks of Ting being chair?
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/found...May/058020.html


When Flo and Ting Chen fight the English language is held hostage.

As far as I can make out Ting Chen took a pretty orthodox position concerning WMF role in the projects but Flo was pushing for an even more extreme autonomy (irresponsible) position. Anyone have a different reading?


English is not their native language...what's your excuse Shakespeare... angry.gif

Madame Flo clearly advocates a support and advisory role for the WMF, with a diminishing authority over time. This would effectively degrade the last, and greatest, trump card in Unca Jimbo's deck. If the WMF board can't, or won't, get rid of him, then rendering it irrelevant as well would eliminate most of what influence he has left (he's already starting to look more and more like just another editor wink.gif .

Or to use Flo's maternal analogy (though it is a bit odd outside of theology and creation mythos to find a parent born 4 years after the child! ohmy.gif :

The En:Wiki has clearly come of age, and so should be free to say, with love, Fuck off, mommy dearest!

From our standpoint as anti-Jimbots and members of the Wiki-Kool Aide Prohibition Alliance this is a good thing...yes?

Je dit Oh HELLS OUI!
GO FLOFLO! ALLONS-Y

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> For me, this statement is at the first line a support for Jimmy's
> effort.

I am not convinced it should be interpretated that way. Jimmy's is
behaving like a vandal and breaking the very notion of our "power in the
hands of the community". Certainly, the board is not supporting his
breaking our internal rules crafted with great care over a 10 years period.

Brutus
Ting Chen?

I thought you were discussing a hot Asian chick evilgrin.gif , but alias, its a man wearing shorts and sandals. unhappy.gif
Ting Chen
thekohser
QUOTE(Ottava @ Sat 10th July 2010, 3:20pm) *

I'm excited, as Ting has shown himself to be far more practical, realistic, and ethical than his libertarian predecessors...


Really?

I think he's right in line with his impractical, unrealistic, and unethical predecessors:

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Wie Sie selbst als "Outsider" bezeichnet betrachte ich Ihnen auch nicht als einen Wikimedianer, weswegen fühle ich mich auch nicht verpflichtet, Ihnen gegenüber weiteren Auskunft zu geben. Damit ist diese Unterhaltung beendet. Punkt.

(translation) You call yourself an "outsider", which means I consider you not to be a Wikimedian, so I do not feel obliged to give you any further information. So this conversation is over. Period.
Kelly Martin
Sounds like he has an unlimited supply of the Kool-Aid.
thekohser
Think it's just a coincidence that former Chair Michael Snow's last edit to Wikipedia (before he stepped off / was removed from the WMF board of trustees) regarded cock and ball torture?

Anybody have word on how this Chen-for-Snow deal shook down?
Son of a Yeti
QUOTE(Brutus @ Tue 13th July 2010, 12:12am) *

I thought you were discussing a hot Asian chick evilgrin.gif , but alias, its a man wearing shorts and sandals. unhappy.gif


Alias? wtf.gif

Alas, no one can use this beautiful word anymore. noooo.gif
Achromatic
The Koolaid is strong within Noein:
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I would oppose any person pretending to dictate non-consensually how to
handle the human knowledge: it is part of the Humanity Heritage.
(speaking on Jimbo's sexual images decree).

"The Humanity Heritage"? Wikipedia? Really?
thekohser
Ting Chen's ascendancy has made the news.
A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 13th July 2010, 2:45pm) *

Ting Chen's ascendancy has made the news.


I like Brutus' Ting Chen much, much better! boing.gif

QUOTE(Ottava @ Tue 13th July 2010, 9:59am) *
Kameraad Pjotr and Pieter Kuiper are just some of the more nasty of the dutch group. Jayvdb, just get on IRC and ask some people about the dutch group - you'll be given names and lots of complaints.


Obviously, they edit Wikis the same way that they play World Cup soccer! tongue.gif

QUOTE(Ottava @ Sat 10th July 2010, 3:20pm) *

I'm excited, as Ting has shown himself to be far more practical, realistic, and ethical than his libertarian predecessors


Does that mean you are Ting-a-ling with excitement? ermm.gif
Milton Roe
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 13th July 2010, 6:27am) *

Think it's just a coincidence that former Chair Michael Snow's last edit to Wikipedia (before he stepped off / was removed from the WMF board of trustees) regarded cock and ball torture?

I just read that as a Kood Aid-y anti-POINT screed reminding us that the rules are not consistent on WP. The only consistant rules on Wikipedia are WP:ILIKEIT and WP:IMOREPOWERFULTHANYOU.

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Anybody have word on how this Chen-for-Snow deal shook down?

Somebody said: "Oy, these Mormons are so 1950's when it comes to cock and ball torture."

"Yeah, it's like they want poodle skirts and Duck's Ass haircuts back."

Pretty soon they figured Snow probably couldn't take it. Asian guys are just as tractable as Mormons about doing what anybody who looks vaguely in authority tells them to do, plus they have fewer hangups about sex.
HRIP7
QUOTE(Ottava @ Sat 10th July 2010, 8:20pm) *

I'm excited, as Ting has shown himself to be far more practical, realistic, and ethical than his libertarian predecessors who care more about appeasing a radical, mostly Dutch extreme copyleftist movement that doesn't actually bother to produce any content.

I agree.
Somey
I have to say that I, too, am impressed with the choice of Ting Chen as the WMF Board chairperson. It's high time these boardmembers started performing some sort of useful role, and that clearly won't be a problem for Mr. Chen, whose leadership and keen sense of diplomacy will finally allow the WMF staff to order "off-menu" items at some of San Francisco's more "traditional" Chinese restaurants.

However, let's not forget that he's still a high-level WMF functionary, and like all high-level WMF functionaries, he's guilty until proven not to exist.
Cock-up-over-conspiracy
Pluck your twanger, Chuckie ...
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As we are little bitty boys
Jimbo Wales bought us a cute little toy
Wiki-puppet hanging on a string
He told us it was his Ting-A-Chen-a-ling

Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen, we want you to play with Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen
Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen, we want you to play with Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen

Many years climbing the slippery pole,
Lead to a slip and a terrible fall.
The Wikipeda became a Porn-Ring,
So out with Mike Snow and in with Ting-A-Chen

Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen, we want you to play with Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen
Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen, we want you to play with Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen

Sue was stuck, so she call CBC,
"I need someone else ... again ... to bail out me".
Sure was hard to work that PR thing,
So in comes Jim waving his Ting-A-Chen

Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen, we want you to play with Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen
Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen, we want you to play with Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen

So for those who think the Wiki ain't so sad
This little song should make you mad
But those of you whose accounts don't ping
Try staying at home and play your own Ting-A-Chen

Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen, we want you to play with Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen
Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen, we want you to play with Jimbo's Ting-A-Chen


Moulton
Yes! Moar Song Parodies!
Jon Awbrey
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 13th July 2010, 8:32am) *

QUOTE(Ottava @ Sat 10th July 2010, 3:20pm) *

I'm excited, as Ting has shown himself to be far more practical, realistic, and ethical than his libertarian predecessors …


Really?

I think he's right in line with his impractical, unrealistic, and unethical predecessors:

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Wie Sie selbst als "Outsider" bezeichnet betrachte ich Ihnen auch nicht als einen Wikimedianer, weswegen fühle ich mich auch nicht verpflichtet, Ihnen gegenüber weiteren Auskunft zu geben. Damit ist diese Unterhaltung beendet. Punkt.

(translation) You call yourself an "outsider", which means I consider you not to be a Wikimedian, so I do not feel obliged to give you any further information. So this conversation is over. Period.



Yet another perfect example of Wikipediot Not-Of-The-Body Expunction (WP:NOTBE).

Jon dry.gif
Jon Awbrey
Greg's fine article @ Examiner.com — not too shabby by-pic, too! — had this emusing botogenic ad.

Jon tongue.gif
Somey
Following a lead from one of the commenters on the examiner.com article, I found this old 2004 conversation between Mr. Ting Chen (as Philopp (T-C-L-K-R-D) - later renamed to Wing (T-C-L-K-R-D) ) and another Chinese user, Yacht (T-C-L-K-R-D) - later pronounced "Throatwarblermangrove."

Apparently, in 2004 at least, Mr. Chen believed that the Christian religion is largely responsible for the existence - or specifically, the "importation" - of homophobia into China.
QUOTE(Philopp @ 11:12, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC))
It is the christian church which brings the definition of sin into China, and with it the mental medicine and psychology, which was at that time more a christian moral codex than a science.
So, China is for me a very good example, that the christian religion exported homophobe all arround the world.

Of course, as the commenter says, he's probably correct. (We had a similar situation in Des Moines, where gay folks were treated like "just regular corn-eatin' folks" until the Christians showed up and forced them all to drive Volvos and BMWs.) But statements like that, even from six years ago, could cost him the support of Mr. Ottava, who as we all know was brought into Wikipedia because of his credentials as an ethicist, and who is about as strident a supporter of the Christian-right anti-gay-rights agenda as is possible to get without being a regular Fox News on-air personality.

Without that vital support, I fear Mr. Chen's tenure as WMF Chairperson is likely to be a short one. (I give him 45 more minutes, tops, unless he manages to buy a few button-down shirts.)

I should also point out that the Christian religion was unable to export "homophobe" into Brazil until the 1970's, due to prohibitively high tariffs.
A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Thu 15th July 2010, 12:08am) *

Greg's fine article @ Examiner.com — not too shabby by-pic, too! — had this emusing botogenic ad.

Jon tongue.gif


Yeah, that photo is killer. Who knew that Greg would be the 21st century answer of Gale Sondergaard's Spider Woman? wink.gif

And speaking of photos -- not to sound utterly atrocious, but couldn't Ting provide a classier photograph?
A User
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 15th July 2010, 10:45pm) *

And speaking of photos -- not to sound utterly atrocious, but couldn't Ting provide a classier photograph?



What for horsey? Anyone can edit! laugh.gif
Cock-up-over-conspiracy
QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 15th July 2010, 8:28am) *
Without that vital support, I fear Mr. Chen's tenure as WMF Chairperson is likely to be a short one. I give him 45 more minutes, tops, unless he manages to buy a few button-down shirts.

Could I just be the first to start the rumor that Teng-a-Cheng is in reality a very clever deep secret undercover agent for Communist China's Te-Wu who are, at this very moment, attempting to infiltrate the Wikipedia worldwide network of website in order to subtly control consensus about various sensitive issues.

Not that I have any evidence to suggest so but ... so what ... it is the Wikipedia after all. And would not one expert them to?

For anyone that has any doubt about how good they are, remember Bernard Boursicot, a French diplomat caught in a honeypot trap seduction by Shi Pei Pu, a male Peking opera singer whom Boursicot believed to be female. And, For those otherwise inclined to more "Christian" practises, there is always Pian Mei, 2nd runner-up of Miss Beijing 1993, and thought to be the top female Secret Service in China.


Meanwhile, Claude Moniquet from the European Strategic Intelligence and Security Centre said recently ...
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NTDTV: During his recent visit to Canada, Chen Yonglin–the Chinese diplomat who defected in Australia–pointed out that the Chinese embassies in North-America control and use the Chinese Student and Scholar Associations (CSSA) for ulterior motives such as spying. More and more evidence for this Chinese embassy's control has surfaced lately. What's your viewpoint on this and how would you relate this to the Chinese Student Association Leuven (CSAL) case in Belgium where similar accusations were made in 2005?

Moniquet: I think that the first thing to mention is that in fact all countries are using espionage, but China is doing it in a very aggressive and extensive way. The Chinese secret services work exactly as the Soviets did. They have the Ministry of Public Security and a special intelligence branch in the army. Both are controlling a lot of organizations abroad, and especially they are controlling journalists and students.

If not Teng-a-Cheng, who is it?

Incidentally, I have seen those guys and gals in action and they are frighteningly effective.
thekohser
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 15th July 2010, 8:45am) *

Yeah, that photo is killer. Who knew that Greg would be the 21st century answer of Gale Sondergaard's Spider Woman? wink.gif


You mean something like this?

The person who took that picture of me was 5 years old. Go figure.
A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 15th July 2010, 11:20am) *

The person who took that picture of me was 5 years old. Go figure.


Is that five-year-old on Wikipedia, too? smile.gif
GlassBeadGame
Mod Note: Moved Dutch stuff into Dutch Vacation thread in Annex.

GBG.
A Horse With No Name
Ting Chen on Facebook


Cock-up-over-conspiracy
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 16th July 2010, 2:33am) *

Cue: whacko conspiracy theory ... you see, that proves he is a Red under the Bed type spy and trying to infiltrate Facebook too. Look, he even has a camera and a shifty look.

So who is this guy, what power and influence does he really have?
the fieryangel
QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 15th July 2010, 8:28am) *

...later renamed to Wing (T-C-L-K-R-D) )...


Personally, I've always wondered if there was connection between Wing (T-C-L-K-R-D) ) and Wing...however that probably tells you more about me than about anything else...

A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Thu 15th July 2010, 11:15pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 16th July 2010, 2:33am) *

Cue: whacko conspiracy theory ... you see, that proves he is a Red under the Bed type spy and trying to infiltrate Facebook too. Look, he even has a camera and a shifty look.


He also acknowledges being gay. I wonder if he is also spying for Michael Lucas' Mossad! evilgrin.gif
RDH(Ghost In The Machine)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 13th July 2010, 7:32pm) *

Pretty soon they figured Snow probably couldn't take it. Asian guys are just as tractable as Mormons about doing what anybody who looks vaguely in authority tells them to do, plus they have fewer hangups about sex.


Hmmm.
Germans as well...and Ting Wing is both.

There's gotta be a song parody in this somewhere.


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