QUOTE(radek @ Wed 21st July 2010, 8:19pm)
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Mon 19th July 2010, 1:19pm)
QUOTE(anthony @ Mon 19th July 2010, 6:30pm)
What's the topic about which you want to hear "some reasoning"?
Well, do you agree with my argument that the crowd, the mob, is able to establish the truth better than a bunch of experts? If so, we have no quarrel, and there is no point in your being sarcastic. If you don't agree, give a reasoned argument.
The straightforward answer to this question is another question; "establish the truth better" about what? Different kinds of facts and truths are better arrived at through different kinds of processes. Certainly, if I wanted to know the number of jelly beans in a jar, asking a thousand people and taking the average would work very well. But notice that even in this case there is a need for an efficient aggregator of information (in this simple example, somebody's got to take the average). If such efficient aggregators don't exist, then you don't get the truth but a whole lot of bias.
In relation to Wikipedia: do you really think it has "efficient" ways of aggregating all the "information" that gets inputed into it? Nope.
Aggregation is irrelevant. As I argued
http://ocham.blogspot.com/2010/07/truth-in-numbers.html , people do not edit Wikipedia for free. They edit Wikipedia to get their agenda across - pedophilia, nationalistic bias, crank theories, whatever. No one cares about the truth enough (though they care a bit) to edit Wikipedia with the truth. The result is plain to see.
Now if you paid someone to establish the truth, then they have the right kind of incentive, namely money. Then they will write the truth.
Some thoughts about this from a philosopher (and Wikipedia editor) Michalal Huemer.
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Problems: I see mistakes in Wikipedia articles about things I know about, and it makes me distrust the articles in subjects I don't know about. I could edit the articles to correct the mistakes, but this can be extremely time consuming (one could spend days just going through various philosophy articles). I also find periodic grammar or other style problems. One doesn't find this in traditional encyclopedias such as the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, or the Edwards (Macmillan) Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Probably other readers have the same experience.
Causes of the problems:
No one is accountable, nor does anyone feel responsible, for the accuracy of Wikipedia articles, since they are unsigned and have no official authors.
There is virtually no incentive to work on them.
Doing so is extremely time-consuming. People who write traditional encyclopedia articles also expend a lot of time. However, they are typically repaid in one or more of three ways: with money, with recognition or prestige, and with the chance to gently support what they see as the right view of the subject. However:
One is paid nothing to write or edit Wikipedia articles.
One gets no recognition or prestige, since the articles are unsigned.
One gets no chance to forward what one sees as the correct views, because of the NPOV policy.
Finally, one can't even link to one's own relevant papers on the subject, since there seems to be an unofficial policy to automatically delete such links. So the deal is: spend hour upon hour doing web editing, and you can be sure of getting nothing in return.
Genuine experts in a subject are usually people who have other demands on their time--often professors, for example, who could spend their time working with their own students or doing research in their field that they'll get credit for. So just thinking of these factors a priori, it seems unlikely that many experts would contribute to Wikipedia.
It's true that if someone sees an error in an article they can fix it. But it's also true that others can introduce new errors. And the people most likely to see errors and not introduce new ones, are the experts who seem to have no incentive to contribute. --owl232 11:58, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:OwlN.B. Huemer is a libertarian.