these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even do anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

I salute you sir, with your own cocktail, named for you:

Obesity Called Me a Douche

2 oz. cheap gin, say Beefeater Gin

3/4 oz. lemon liqueur, say Paula's Texas Lemon

1/2 oz. lemon juice

1/2 oz. balsamic vinegar

1 oz. cane syrup

2 in. lemon peel

Put all of the above except the peel in an ice-filled cocktail shaker and shake until chilled.
Decant into a Manhattan glass and wring out the peel into the cocktail. Drop it in.

Place a glass of mineral water nearby as a chaser.

*Plagiarized, adapted, and shaken from a recipe in the Washington Times

Important Update

His charm offensive has succeeded. His block is lifted, all's right with the world.

Well, somebody purporting to be an Rlevse new account got tromped on.

Avraham has no sense of humor. Which is okay, since Rlevse didn't either.

Peace, everyone. Rlevse

Hahaha. That's got to be in the all time Top 10 comedy vandalism.

Hrmmm...

Good point. I noticed the non-vandal diffs at the time but failed to see the signifance. Looking at the diffs of the specific contributions of Vanished_6551232 (T-C-L-K-R-D) , it does look like old Rlevse himself, editing under that account since he scrambled his Rlevse password on Halloween. Oooohh, wait will Giano realizes this....

Don't take him off hivemind yet, Brandt.

Uhh.... I think you're a few steps behind the game. Avraham openly renamed Rlvese's account to Vanished_6551232 in order to obscure his contributions once he decided to "vanish". ALL of Rlvese's diffs can be found in vanished's contributions

Right. Rlevse actually logged in and made that comment.

From Special:Log/renameuser (timestamp is UTC -8).

Sure enough-- I didn't look down the page far enough.

Okay, riddle me this, Fatman: if Avraham actually opened the Vanished_6551232 account for Rlevse, why is he now indef blocking it, saying vanished users have no reason to be posting comments? Is Avraham starting to get embarassed by Giano's rather pointed comments that Rlevse is not going to vanish at all, in any sense of the word? What?

You're not going to tell me that Avraham JUST NOW noticed that Rlevse was using this account to post comments under his Rlevse username?

And 05:04, November 8, 2010 Avraham (talk | contribs) blocked Vanished 6551232 (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked, autoblock disabled) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Vanished users do not need to edit)

Not sure if "(Vanished users do not need to edit)" makes sense, but Rlevse is clearly now keeping his head down.

Oh well, it was just mere comedy and not vandalism at all. What kind of fruitcake goes around saying "peace" anyway? Machiavellian is one thing, but the froth of Wikipedia are real nutcases too.

It doesn't make much sense, actually. Traditionally there's been a difference made between "editing" (which generally refers to editing articles in mainspace) and posting TALK comments. What this really means is: "We don't want to be hearing from you, Rlevse, especially not while we're in the middle of blocking Giano for disruption, when he insists you're not really gone...."

"autoblock disabled"?

Good catch, Alison. It's blatantly obvious what that means.

Look, Rlevse wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree, but not the worst either.

On the other hand, those who sit in judgment of others find that the searchlight of judgment gets turned back on them. Oops!

But the hypocrisy is what shines through the most. Not Rlevse, who obviously recognizes that he screwed up, and royally, but the rest of the crowd on both sides. Attacking the current scapegoat and protecting their friends, and never stopping to look at the central problem: an abusive system, a monster that eventually eats those who feed it.

My first thought when I saw this was 'LOLWUT?' I emailed Avi to ask what he was at when he did that, and apparently he just assumed Rlevse was on a dynamic IP and that there was no reason to block *that* too. When I pointed out what it looked like, esp. a block coming from a checkuser, he shat bricks Guess he won't do that again ...

Putting the obsessive on-wiki politics aside, are you getting stupider?

No. Are you?

So you need a web page to work through the lamest level of irony?

At least I answered the question, Ass-bead. Can we take this as a yes?

I bet you slay the kiddies on 4chan and your ED homeland.

I don't hang out on 4chan any more - haven't in years. And yeah, had to get the ol' ED dig in there, eh? Real soon, you'll end this thread with your trademark "Fuck off!", like you usually do when you run out of wind. Round about now, in fact.

This is so inane. Go have the last word and walk off with a 'win' or whatever you need to stroke your ego. Same garbage, different day

Why is every thread about you guys? Why can't we talk about the amusing antics of the Fat Man for once?

By the way, I love participating in Irony.

As a question, if I am in love with some of your comments, does that make me gay?




This random bit of nonsense was paid for by the Free Ottava 2010 Committee. Treasurer: The Fat Man Who Might Have Came Back.

I have alway just assumed that you were gay. Aren't you?

I feel Ottava is gay only in the eldest sense of the word.

Hmm. The "No." link returns an error for me. Another secret part of the site?

Apparently. So therefore that link needs to be oversighted out of existence....

"stupider" is of course a well-known word, attested to by an impeccable source:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stupider

It's also in the Official Scrabble Dictionary, not that anyone thinks that's more reliable than Wiktionary.

Ottava Rima: Guys want to be like him! Girls want to be with him! Some guys also want to be with him!

GLASSBEADGAME FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, this subforum is for people who LIEK WIKIPEDIA!!!!!!! you go away and go hang out in the grown ups forum and DON'T INSULT ALISON SHE IS MY GIRLFRIEND (or as the 14 year-old kids say, my "wifey")

I think you're right; Avraham was trying to preempt any further trouble or controversy by the unstable Rlevse. And I think he has some sort of policy on his side in blocking the account.



thank you, i am honored and humbled

I JUST GOT INDEFFED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

what is with these admins?

I am mystified and disappointed.

We are like twins now, in the sense that Arnold Swartznegger was the twin of that short fat guy.





By the way, if I am brought back I will run for adminship on the platform of unblocking the Fat Man whenever I can. This ad was paid for by the Free Ottava 2010 Committee. Treasurer: your mom.

I see you more as The Cable Guy.

I as well may run for adminship and/or arbcom on the platform of unblocking The Fat Man and generally tolerating his antics.

How many edits do you have these days?

i don't know, a few thousand prolly

Get User:Bad edits r dumb to co-nominate you.

Captain Picard has this for you, nerd.

That's cool that the moderator for the forum for people who supposedly like Wikipedia has been banned from Wikipedia.

You almost have to love Wikipedia to get banned. Otherwise once it is clear that it isn't working out you just leave.

This is true for organized religions, too. Those who can't get it out of their systems have to get excommunicated or lead anticult groups. Whereas, those who just see the light, tend to just go away...

And (yes) I care about Wikipedia. I care about the concept and the good content (which does exist). The thing is an imperfect monstrosity, like the French revolution. But you can see the glimmer of the future of France in there, somewhere. If you can look past the gillotines and so on.

I just wish that WP had been like the American revolution, which was a pretty cool revolution, as revolutions go. Far neater than anything of the time. I don't think anybody got up to those standards again until the Soviet bloc disintegration, and South Africa, a couple of centuries later.

prolly indeed

Bad comparison. The American revolution had a positive and entirely new conception of what a nation ought to be, and this was lacking in the collapse of the USSR.

Have you seen all the busybodies messing with your user page? I think it should just be reverted to this version and left alone.

Actually, you just need to read the policies and guidelines and believe that the community, where it counts when you run into conflict, follows them.

Wikipedia vignette. Being led to the "gillotine," the editor points out that the word is not spelled correctly. The crowd denounces him as a wikilawyer, and anyone attempting to correct the spelling is also "gillotined" as a "meat puppet."

I got in trouble, that MYOB thing, when I saw editors who obviously passionately loved Wikipedia who were being roundly abused, instead of guided, and tried to help. The thing about extending special consideration to major contributors is bullshit, if the major contributor runs afoul of influential administrators. My favorite example: Per Honor et Gloria (T-C-L-K-R-D) . previously known as PHG.

Is anyone over there *gestures rudely in the general direction of Wikipedia* handling how you want your page to look? What are your wishes, Obesity?

* Totally unfair, in that the general rule is that users aren't blocked for responding uncivilly to being blocked.

* Gains practically no sympathy from me, because what do you expect when you poke bears?

I reserve my sympathy for those who have been abused when they rationally expected reasonable treatment.

I'd prefer, of course, that Obesity be unblocked, but I'd prefer that hosts of blocked editors be unblocked, that blocks be used preventatively, based on proven risk, with what is generally recommended, gradual escalation, and only when actually needed. Incivility on the user's own talk page is generally tolerable, particularly when it is general -- or directed at an admin who has blocked the user.

But, of course, politically it's a Bad Idea, and shows that the user cares more about spewing out whatever the user thinks rather than considering what the community needs to settle the disruption. But as the Encyclopedia that Anyone Can Edit, some allowance must be made for emotional immaturity. Even if the user is sixty years old, not to mention if younger.

I just would not deal with this with an indef block, and, in fact, the user should have been simply left for the block to expire. Ranting and raving about being blocked, on the users own Talk page, quite simply, is just, for some, to be expected and should be discounted. It does little harm because nobody is obligated to read it. If he comes off the 48 hour block and goes to, say, AN/I, and rants about the "douche" who blocked him, well, maybe a week block.... etc.

Thanks for that link. There's more irony on Fatso's TALK than the entire rest of Wikipedia combined. It's like an elephant graveyard of facetious writing. You've been keeping it secret! Perhaps this is where all the irony-overloaded WP admins and editors go, to dump their loads. To let off pressure. A safety valve, if you like, in the haven of the irony-impaired that is Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The...Never_Came_Back

You know how it's been mentioned how bad Ottava needs a blowjob? Well, that's how bad I need to do something like visit the Fat Man's TALK page and be sarcastic, just for a little bit.

Thank god for WR.

Encyclopedia? What encyclopedia?

Looks like he's been unblocked again, this time by Gimmetrow (T-C-L-K-R-D) , though it's not clear as to whether or not Mr. Gimmetrow received any additional trow for unblocking him.

Maybe the name is supposed to refer to a "gimmet row," except there's no such word as "gimmet." He could have meant "gibbet," but that would be extremely disturbing if he meant to invoke the image of a row of gibbets.