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Herschelkrustofsky
Remember your basic instructions: you have a total of 3 points to award to DICK contestants. You may award all three to one candidate by voting for that person as both DICK and runner-up, or you may divide them by giving 2 to a DICK candidate and 1 to a runner-up. The winner will be the contestant with the highest combined point total.

You must cast one vote in every category. The last selection is the equivalent of a "pass."


All other categories are more straightforward: you have one vote for each category. Use it wisely.

Here, for any N00bs, are the definitions for each category:

WP:DICK of Distinction -- for all-around rottenness by an admin

The Tag-Team Event (see Wikipedia:Tag team)

Miss Incongeniality, for original and flamboyant violations of Wikipedia:Civility

Vexatious Litigant, for the person who just can't get enough of those noticeboards and arbitration cases

and for the good guys...

the Straight Shooter award for honest admins

and the Cojones de latón, for the non-admin who has distinguished himself in combat with the cabal

Click here for a history of this exalted competition, if you need the back-story.

All set? Let's vote! Keep it clean. Winners will be announced after the voting peters out in about 10 days.
CharlotteWebb
QUOTE
The Climate Cabal: William M. Connelley, Kim Dabelstein Petersen, Dave Souza, Stephan Schulz, and Joshua P. Schroeder née ScienceApologist


Dr. Connolley really hates it when people misspell his name.
Jon Awbrey
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 12:43am) *

Dr. Connolley really hates it when people misspell his name.


I move we call him “The WC” from this day forward.

Now Flush The WC And Move On …

Jon tongue.gif
Alison
Porn protection cabal is streaking into the lead, I see.
Gruntled
QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 6:46am) *

Porn protection cabal is streaking into the lead, I see.

I hope they're having full frontal shots taken of their streaking. That would be vital encyclopedic material. mellow.gif
Ottava
QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 1:46am) *

Porn protection cabal is streaking into the lead, I see.


sick.gif
Herschelkrustofsky
Interesting... for the first time, several members in good standing of the Review are making a strong showing in the Bad Guys categories.
The Adversary
QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 3:29pm) *

Interesting... for the first time, several members in good standing of the Review are making a strong showing in the Bad Guys categories.

Are you talking about Ottava? biggrin.gif


On another note: I think this year is a first (?): neither Jayjg or SlimVirgin have been nominated in any category.

See, what happen when we do not have our normal piñatas to kick: we run around like headless chicken tongue.gif
pablo
"Vexatious litigant" is a tricky one; spoilt for choice ...
Herschelkrustofsky
And they're off! In early polling, Cirt leads the pack with 19 points, followed by Sandstein with 14 points, GeorgeWilliamherbert with 11, and the Review's own Lar with 10. The Porn Protectors have established themselves as the team to beat in the tag event, while the Review's own Ottava owns Miss Incongeniality with 12 votes, followed by IronDuke and Tarc with 6 each. The Vexatious Litigant race is wide open with the Review's own Abd leading Baseball Bugs, Cyclopedia and FT2 by a narrow margin. In the Straight Shooter event, Scott MacDonald née Doc glasgow looks unstoppable with Will Beback practically calling him a Scientologist at Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Scientology. And finally for Cojones de latón, perennial favorite Cla68 has an early lead, but MZMcBride is breathing down his neck with only a one vote margin between them. popcorn.gif
Doc glasgow
QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Fri 4th February 2011, 6:33am) *

And they're off! In early polling, Cirt leads the pack with 19 points, followed by Sandstein with 14 points, GeorgeWilliamherbert with 11, and the Review's own Lar with 10. The Porn Protectors have established themselves as the team to beat in the tag event, while the Review's own Ottava owns Miss Incongeniality with 12 votes, followed by IronDuke and Tarc with 6 each. The Vexatious Litigant race is wide open with the Review's own Abd leading Baseball Bugs, Cyclopedia and FT2 by a narrow margin. In the Straight Shooter event, Scott MacDonald née Doc glasgow looks unstoppable with Will Beback practically calling him a Scientologist at Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Scientology. And finally for Cojones de latón, perennial favorite Cla68 has an early lead, but MZMcBride is breathing down his neck with only a one vote margin between them. popcorn.gif


Gotta give Will beback points for trying? No. Maybe I am a Scientologist - or maybe I just don't think we should describe everyone who once went to a Scientology meeting as "evil cultist bastard" on their BLP?

Anyway, can I put in his early nomination for next year's "Vexatious Litigant"?
DollyD
Go MZMcBride for Cojones de latón!
EricBarbour
For sheer quantity of hatred and backstabby stuff, Cirt deserves the big win.

(Do you realize that not one of the past DICK winners has changed their behavior
in the slightest as a result of winning? It would be nice to think that people like SV,
Jayjg and JzG were eventually sanctioned partly as a result of winning, but you'd have
some real difficulty proving it. Being called a DICK, repeatedly, hasn't affected
Gerard in the slightest.)
JayT
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:52am) *

For sheer quantity of hatred and backstabby stuff, Cirt deserves the big win.

(Do you realize that not one of the past DICK winners has changed their behavior
in the slightest as a result of winning? It would be nice to think that people like SV,
Jayjg and JzG were eventually sanctioned partly as a result of winning, but you'd have
some real difficulty proving it. Being called a DICK, repeatedly, hasn't affected
Gerard in the slightest.)
I've got a feeling most of the top contenders are the types to see being reviled by WR as a 'badge of honor' or something. yecch.gif
TungstenCarbide
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:52am) *

For sheer quantity of hatred and backstabby stuff, Cirt deserves the big win.

(Do you realize that not one of the past DICK winners has changed their behavior
in the slightest as a result of winning? It would be nice to think that people like SV,
Jayjg and JzG were eventually sanctioned partly as a result of winning, but you'd have
some real difficulty proving it. Being called a DICK, repeatedly, hasn't affected
Gerard in the slightest.)

you can't polish a turd.
Doc glasgow
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Fri 4th February 2011, 4:29pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:52am) *

For sheer quantity of hatred and backstabby stuff, Cirt deserves the big win.

(Do you realize that not one of the past DICK winners has changed their behavior
in the slightest as a result of winning? It would be nice to think that people like SV,
Jayjg and JzG were eventually sanctioned partly as a result of winning, but you'd have
some real difficulty proving it. Being called a DICK, repeatedly, hasn't affected
Gerard in the slightest.)

you can't polish a turd.



Or put Lipstick on Davy Gerrard?
Milton Roe
QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:32am) *

You can do the last, but it comes out looking like Goth Zombie lipstick.
lilburne
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Fri 4th February 2011, 5:45pm) *

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:32am) *

You can do the last, but it comes out looking like Goth Zombie lipstick.



Yeah but lets hear it for the porn protection cabal



Take it away Gmaxwell and make it real.

Herschelkrustofsky
At the close of the second day, Cirt still leads the pack with 25 points, followed by Georgewilliamherbert and Sandstein with 15 each. In the tag-team event, the Porn Protectors still maintain a 4 vote lead over the Climate Changers. Ottava still enjoys a comfortable lead over IronDuke for Miss Incongeniality, while Baseball Bugs has edged ahead of Abd for Vexatious Litigant, with FT2 now tied for second place. Scott MacDonald née Doc glasgow appears to control the Straight Shooter match, but for Cojones de latón, MZMcBride is now neck and neck with Cla68 in a real cliff-hanger.
HRIP7
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Fri 4th February 2011, 4:29pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 4th February 2011, 10:52am) *

For sheer quantity of hatred and backstabby stuff, Cirt deserves the big win.

(Do you realize that not one of the past DICK winners has changed their behavior
in the slightest as a result of winning? It would be nice to think that people like SV,
Jayjg and JzG were eventually sanctioned partly as a result of winning, but you'd have
some real difficulty proving it. Being called a DICK, repeatedly, hasn't affected
Gerard in the slightest.)

you can't polish a turd.

On the other hand, note that David Gerard has actually backed Scott up. Time for a 5-minute moratorium on Gerard-bashing?
Herschelkrustofsky
QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Sat 5th February 2011, 5:00am) *

On the other hand, note that David Gerard has actually backed Scott up. Time for a 5-minute moratorium on Gerard-bashing?
Interesting. Yes, I think the 5 minutes is fully justified.
It's the blimp, Frank
Bad sportsmanship?
Herschelkrustofsky
Cirt has now emerged as the dominant contestant for WP:DICK with 32 points, trailed by Georgewilliamherbert with 20. The Porn Protectors are maintaining a 5 vote lead over the Climate Changers in the Tag Team event, but here's a message for Malleus Fatuorum and Parrot of Doom -- it ain't over until the Slim Virgin sings. A little extra effort on your part, with some fancy teamwork and really egregious POV pushing, might still take you over the top. Meanwhile, Ottava is still the man to beat in the Miss Incongeniality category, with IronDuke and Tarc tied for second place. The Vexatious Litigant event is now adrenaline city with Abd, Baseball Bugs and FT2 neck-and-neck at 10 votes each. Scott MacDonald née Doc glasgow has left the rest in the dust for the Straight Shooter honors, while MZMcBride has actually pulled ahead of Cla68 in the Cojones de latón race. The fans are on their feet!
Gruntled
QUOTE( @ Sun 6th February 2011, 5:21pm) *

Cirt has now emerged as the dominant contestant for WP:DICK

That's scarcely surprising, given all the publicity there's been for his anti-Scientology antics. (Not that I'm exactly pro-Scientology myself, I stress.)
QUOTE

Meanwhile, Ottava is still the man to beat in the Miss Incongeniality category

Let's give Ottava all praise when he deserves it. He's run a staggeringly good and determined campaign for the honour. Look at this thread for example. How could even IronDuke compete?
MZMcBride
I'm surprised the climate cabal is losing out to the porn cabal. Sex sells, I guess.

I voted for Scott for straight shooter (seems like a lock) and Giano for cojones de latón (mostly as he does a much better job than almost anyone at paying attention and pointing out problems).

My two-point dick vote went to Rlevse; my one-point dick vote went to Cirt (looks like I'll be winning there).

Miss Incongeniality going to Ottava isn't really a surprise given the primary voter base here, but I voted for TenPoundHammer. Looks unlikely that he'll be able to pull ahead at this point, but he'll always be the biggest, craziest diva to me. I mean ... the otters? Come on!
EricBarbour
QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sat 5th February 2011, 8:09am) *
QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Sat 5th February 2011, 5:00am) *
On the other hand, note that David Gerard has actually backed Scott up. Time for a 5-minute moratorium on Gerard-bashing?
Interesting. Yes, I think the 5 minutes is fully justified.

You must be joking. Gerard has always been hostile towards Scientology, and I suspect his hostility is a major reason why McWhiney and Cirt spend so much time attacking past and current CoS members on WP.

He empowers the powerless (and the pointless).
Sarcasticidealist
Is campaigning still allowed? Because I knew I recognized Silver Seren from somewhere. If those are cojones de laiton, we ought perhaps to prefer a different alloy.
Herschelkrustofsky
QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Sun 6th February 2011, 6:56pm) *

Is campaigning still allowed?
Sure, why not. But given the way that particular event is shaping up, I don't think your link is going to significantly impact SS's chances.
Herschelkrustofsky
QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Sat 5th February 2011, 11:49am) *


Apparently, the Tag-Team Event is one of the most coveted awards. I just found this:
QUOTE

mikeu: on another topic, i have a won a 2009 Wikipedia Review WP:DICK of Distinction Award
Sybil: I am not saying he is right or wrong.
Sybil: I just want to understand it.
mikeu: for the Tag-Team Event
mikeu: http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=22736
carbuncle
QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 7th February 2011, 2:56am) *

Is campaigning still allowed? Because I knew I recognized Silver Seren from somewhere. If those are cojones de laiton, we ought perhaps to prefer a different alloy.

Perhaps cojones de ratón?
Ottava
QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 6th February 2011, 1:57pm) *


Miss Incongeniality going to Ottava isn't really a surprise given the primary voter base here, but I voted for TenPoundHammer. Looks unlikely that he'll be able to pull ahead at this point, but he'll always be the biggest, craziest diva to me. I mean ... the otters? Come on!


I find it interesting that I get votes along with those I've disputed with - Abd, FT2, Porn Cabal, etc. Fun.
SB_Johnny
QUOTE(Ottava @ Mon 7th February 2011, 12:01pm) *

QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 6th February 2011, 1:57pm) *


Miss Incongeniality going to Ottava isn't really a surprise given the primary voter base here, but I voted for TenPoundHammer. Looks unlikely that he'll be able to pull ahead at this point, but he'll always be the biggest, craziest diva to me. I mean ... the otters? Come on!

I find it interesting that I get votes along with those I've disputed with - Abd, FT2, Porn Cabal, etc. Fun.

Why is that interesting? The list of people you haven't been a dispute with is, after all, vanishingly small. tongue.gif
A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sun 6th February 2011, 12:21pm) *
...while MZMcBride has actually pulled ahead of Cla68 in the Cojones de latón race.


Wow, MZMcBride really has elastic balls! rolleyes.gif
the fieryangel
QUOTE(Gruntled @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 11:07am) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 3rd February 2011, 6:46am) *

Porn protection cabal is streaking into the lead, I see.

I hope they're having full frontal shots taken of their streaking. That would be vital encyclopedic material. mellow.gif


yes, especially if they're, like, non-white....
KStreetSlave
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 7th February 2011, 1:01pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sun 6th February 2011, 12:21pm) *
...while MZMcBride has actually pulled ahead of Cla68 in the Cojones de latón race.


Wow, MZMcBride really has elastic balls! rolleyes.gif


I haven't been following, what was Cla68's reason for being in that section?
Milton Roe
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 7th February 2011, 4:13am) *

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 7th February 2011, 2:56am) *

Is campaigning still allowed? Because I knew I recognized Silver Seren from somewhere. If those are cojones de laiton, we ought perhaps to prefer a different alloy.

Perhaps cojones de ratón?

Cojones de estaño. wink.gif That one's for the little tin gods who lord it over their anonymous WP domain. Then cower at the thought that anybody in the real world might find them and punch their lights out for their online behavior. You know-- stuff they'd never be dumb enough to do in an office, or say in a bar.
Herschelkrustofsky
QUOTE(KStreetSlave @ Mon 7th February 2011, 1:34pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 7th February 2011, 1:01pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sun 6th February 2011, 12:21pm) *
...while MZMocBride has actually pulled ahead of Cla68 in the Cojones de latón race.


Wow, MZMcBride really has elastic balls! rolleyes.gif


I haven't been following, what was Cla68's reason for being in that section?

Cla68 has been a stalwart foe of WikiKorruption for some time now, and has won the Cojones de latón honors for the past two years running. MZMcBride may have been a bit of a dark horse -- I haven't followed his exploits on-Wiki, but he clearly has many members of the Academy in his camp. Meanwhile, Georgewilliamherbert is putting on the steam, leaving Sandstein behind in the runner-up DICK contest. Could he still give Cirt a run for their money? And don't rule out the Climate Changers for tag-team -- they still pose a credible challenge to the Porn Protectors.

Meanwhile, the Vexatious Litigant event has got everyone on the edge of his seat. At the moment, FT2 has acquired a 1 vote lead over Abd and Baseball Bugs, but this race has been full of surprises, and no contestant can claim a decisive advantage at this juncture.
Lar
Apparently I'm less congenial than ScienceApologist? Well that's certainly food for thought.
Herschelkrustofsky
QUOTE(Lar @ Mon 7th February 2011, 4:13pm) *

Apparently I'm less congenial than ScienceApologist? Well that's certainly food for thought.

It's important to remember that awards pageants of this sort are never purely technical assessments of the contestants. There is always a generous serving of Tinseltown politics involved as well. Have you thought about getting a better publicist?

On the bright side, your grudge match with Ottava is going well (or poorly, depending on how ironic you want to be.)
Herschelkrustofsky
It looks like Cla68 is narrowing the gap with MZMcBride. If Cla68 crosses the finish line first, that will be an unheard-of 3 year streak, which not even David Gerard has attempted. The Vexatious Litigant race continues to be a roller-coaster ride, with our own Abd currently in the lead by a slender 1-vote margin.
EricBarbour
QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 8th February 2011, 2:12pm) *
The Vexatious Litigant race continues to be a roller-coaster ride, with our own Abd currently in the lead by a slender 1-vote margin.

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded. It's possible to have an actual sorta-coherent conversation with him. He may be vexatious, but he's not at a toxic level (unless you're foolish enough to start an argument with him about cold fusion....)

You can't have a conversation with Baseball Bugs. He's completely nuts, has Jimbo Juice dribbling out of every hole in his body, and will probably never turn up here to have a serious debate with WR regulars. AND he talks too much, albeit only in short bursts. Try posting a message on his talkpage, asking him to discuss any criticism of him. See what happens (or doesn't happen).

The more I look thru his massive talkpage archives, the more I think he's deliberately and
cleverly trolling ANI......how smart, a troll who calls everyone else a troll.....
SB_Johnny
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 8th February 2011, 5:34pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 8th February 2011, 2:12pm) *
The Vexatious Litigant race continues to be a roller-coaster ride, with our own Abd currently in the lead by a slender 1-vote margin.

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded.

<snip>
You can't have a conversation with Baseball Bugs.

You've obviously never had the pleasure of trying to have a conversation with Mr. Abd. laugh.gif

(I voted for bugs, BTW. He's not evil either, but very, very, very vexatious and litigious.)
Herschelkrustofsky
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 8th February 2011, 2:34pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 8th February 2011, 2:12pm) *
The Vexatious Litigant race continues to be a roller-coaster ride, with our own Abd currently in the lead by a slender 1-vote margin.

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded. It's possible to have an actual sorta-coherent conversation with him. He may be vexatious, but he's not at a toxic level (unless you're foolish enough to start an argument with him about cold fusion....)

You can't have a conversation with Baseball Bugs. He's completely nuts, has Jimbo Juice dribbling out of every hole in his body, and will probably never turn up here to have a serious debate with WR regulars. AND he talks too much, albeit only in short bursts. Try posting a message on his talkpage, asking him to discuss any criticism of him. See what happens (or doesn't happen).

The more I look thru his massive talkpage archives, the more I think he's deliberately and
cleverly trolling ANI......how smart, a troll who calls everyone else a troll.....
I agree. I rather like Abd, although his posts can be very fatiguing to read. I'm not sure that this new category, "Vexatious Litigant," necessary implies that the contestant must be wicked to win. We're in uncharted waters.
CharlotteWebb
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 8th February 2011, 10:34pm) *

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded. It's possible to have an actual sorta-coherent conversation with him. He may be vexatious, but he's not at a toxic level (unless you're foolish enough to start an argument with him about cold fusion....)

Know thy litigants, in rising order of vexatiosity:
  • Abd just has unusually broad notions of what is relevant to a discussion.
  • NYB just tries way too hard to be everybody's friend, to great waste of ink and electrons.
  • FT2's prolixity varies inversely as his inclination to answer the (often simple) questions being posed to him.
Ottava
QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 8th February 2011, 10:36am) *

QUOTE(Lar @ Mon 7th February 2011, 4:13pm) *

Apparently I'm less congenial than ScienceApologist? Well that's certainly food for thought.

It's important to remember that awards pageants of this sort are never purely technical assessments of the contestants. There is always a generous serving of Tinseltown politics involved as well. Have you thought about getting a better publicist?

On the bright side, your grudge match with Ottava is going well (or poorly, depending on how ironic you want to be.)



Is it? Lar has 12 votes for being a dick and another 7 for being incongeniate. That seems to be a tie to my 19.

And that is considering that Lar had to "lay low" when he was an Ombudsman.
Newyorkbrad
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Tue 8th February 2011, 8:09pm) *

[*]NYB just tries way too hard to be everybody's friend, to great waste of ink and electrons.

Yeah, that one was a little long. On the other hand, reading it wasn't mandatory. And people complain at least as much when we don't give reasons for things.
CharlotteWebb
QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Wed 9th February 2011, 2:18am) *

Yeah, that one was a little long. On the other hand, reading it wasn't mandatory. And people complain at least as much when we don't give reasons for things.

This wall-of-text approach creates the impression (intentional or otherwise) that you'd like as few people as possible to undertake reading it.
Doc glasgow
QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Wed 9th February 2011, 2:18am) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Tue 8th February 2011, 8:09pm) *

[*]NYB just tries way too hard to be everybody's friend, to great waste of ink and electrons.

Yeah, that one was a little long. On the other hand, reading it wasn't mandatory. And people complain at least as much when we don't give reasons for things.



To quote a very wise man...

Perhaps this was "a situation where "less is more" might profitably have been a guiding watchword"??
Doc glasgow
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Wed 9th February 2011, 1:09am) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 8th February 2011, 10:34pm) *

That really gets me. Abd isn't really an "evil" editor, just very very longwinded. It's possible to have an actual sorta-coherent conversation with him. He may be vexatious, but he's not at a toxic level (unless you're foolish enough to start an argument with him about cold fusion....)

Know thy litigants, in rising order of vexatiosity:
  • Abd just has unusually broad notions of what is relevant to a discussion.
  • NYB just tries way too hard to be everybody's friend, to great waste of ink and electrons.
  • FT2's prolixity varies inversely as his inclination to answer the (often simple) questions being posed to him.


I think this award needs retitled next year.

*"Vexatious litigant" is someone who files spurious lawsuits to distract or harass, and would to me mean someone who repeatedly went running to arbcom or XFD/DRV for no good reason (and usually lost).

What I think we've got here is an award for long-winded, off-topic, and tl;dr submissions. Or for that perennial non-answer answer, where lots of words are used as an alternative to actual communication. Or (as I said to Geogre in a put-down line I'm rather proud of) "the tendency to mistake verbosity for erudition."

See also logorrhoea
Herschelkrustofsky
QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 9th February 2011, 5:44am) *

I think this award needs retitled next year.

*"Vexatious litigant" is someone who files spurious lawsuits to distract or harass, and would to me mean someone who repeatedly went running to arbcom or XFD/DRV for no good reason (and usually lost).


I hope we can figure out what it means, because at the moment it is definitely the most exciting event, outside of the Cojones contest where Cla68 has just pulled into the lead.
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