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<img alt="" height="1" width="1" />[b]Wikipedia founder to talk cyber civility on campus on Monday[/b]
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Anybody get this blog to actually load on a web browser?
Both of the links in the article worked for me. I'm on Firefox 4.0.1 using Windows XP.
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Anybody get this blog to actually load on a web browser?
http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/06/07...mpus-on-monday/
Works even on outdated IE
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CiviliNation, the nonprofit organization that Weckerle founded, is aimed at promoting a healthy, civil atmosphere in cyberspace. According to their website, the group aims at “fostering an online culture in which individuals can fully engage and contribute without fear or threat of being the target of unwarranted abuse, harassment, or lies.†Wales serves on the organization’s Board of Directors.
They do point out that WP acts as a conduit of lies, but claim these lies soon get "taken down". Riiight.
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Overton says:
June 8th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Hmmm. Problem is that WP is a effluent pipe of sleeze polluting the internet. Now I [don't] mind a good bit of sleeze myself (who doesn’t), but not when it masquerades as an encyclopaedia.
June 8th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Hmmm. Problem is that WP is a effluent pipe of sleeze polluting the internet. Now I [don't] mind a good bit of sleeze myself (who doesn’t), but not when it masquerades as an encyclopaedia.
Have you ever noticed that people in power very often have a real bug up their asses about "civility"? Adults hate it when their children lie or use vulgarity, because these are the only weapon children really have left. Physically they're outmatched, and socially they're powerless. Bad language and propaganda are ever the last weapon of the angry and physically powerless protestor.
When you totally control a situation (usually by force-- or analogously on WP by controlling the servers and passwords), the only harm the enemy can really do to you is to subject you to satire and more or less vulgar abuse. The cop who has you in handcuffs in back of the car can always afford to call you "sir." Indeed, the judge who is about to sentence you to 20 years of being raped in prison by Joe Bob, or even to death, will probably call you "Mister" while doing it. "Civility" of this nature, is the mark who has won the battle so completely that insult is superfluous.
Jimbo, your "civility" comes from playing a game with no risks, and where you have the advantage of a judge in his own court (on WP), or at least that of the unanswerable speaker or solo interviewee in other venues. Come out and debate on a level playing field. Let's see if you can do it on a bulletin board for 2 weeks, without disengaging and/or losing your cool. Let's see you last 2 hours in front of a knowledgable critic and a live audience without saying something uncivil. Bet you can't.
Yes, the site is working again now -- must have been a server problem on their end.
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June 8th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I recall Dr. Larry Sanger having some rather aggressive words online for Mr. Wales (http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=470 ), stemming from Wales’ preoccupation with painting himself as “founder†of Wikipedia, when the evidence fairly clearly points to the fact that Sanger was the champion of implementing an openly-edited wiki platform, Sanger named it “Wikipediaâ€, Sanger issued the first public call for participation in the project, and Sanger was all over the reference for the first year (as a sort of “editor in chiefâ€), while Wales barely participated in the project.
Then again, there was the time Wales called an award-winning technologist “an idiot†— http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/001299.html
No wonder people are so hostile toward Wales. Liars aren’t often adored by their victims. Sad to see Georgetown stooping to such a level of hypocrisy, playing host to this fraud.
June 8th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I recall Dr. Larry Sanger having some rather aggressive words online for Mr. Wales (http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=470 ), stemming from Wales’ preoccupation with painting himself as “founder†of Wikipedia, when the evidence fairly clearly points to the fact that Sanger was the champion of implementing an openly-edited wiki platform, Sanger named it “Wikipediaâ€, Sanger issued the first public call for participation in the project, and Sanger was all over the reference for the first year (as a sort of “editor in chiefâ€), while Wales barely participated in the project.
Then again, there was the time Wales called an award-winning technologist “an idiot†— http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/001299.html
No wonder people are so hostile toward Wales. Liars aren’t often adored by their victims. Sad to see Georgetown stooping to such a level of hypocrisy, playing host to this fraud.
QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 8th June 2011, 1:36pm)
Yes, the site is working again now -- must have been a server problem on their end.
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Gregory Kohs says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 8th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I recall Dr. Larry Sanger having some rather aggressive words online for Mr. Wales (http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=470 ), stemming from Wales’ preoccupation with painting himself as “founder†of Wikipedia, when the evidence fairly clearly points to the fact that Sanger was the champion of implementing an openly-edited wiki platform, Sanger named it “Wikipediaâ€, Sanger issued the first public call for participation in the project, and Sanger was all over the reference for the first year (as a sort of “editor in chiefâ€), while Wales barely participated in the project.
Then again, there was the time Wales called an award-winning technologist “an idiot†— http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/001299.html
No wonder people are so hostile toward Wales. Liars aren’t often adored by their victims. Sad to see Georgetown stooping to such a level of hypocrisy, playing host to this fraud.
June 8th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I recall Dr. Larry Sanger having some rather aggressive words online for Mr. Wales (http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=470 ), stemming from Wales’ preoccupation with painting himself as “founder†of Wikipedia, when the evidence fairly clearly points to the fact that Sanger was the champion of implementing an openly-edited wiki platform, Sanger named it “Wikipediaâ€, Sanger issued the first public call for participation in the project, and Sanger was all over the reference for the first year (as a sort of “editor in chiefâ€), while Wales barely participated in the project.
Then again, there was the time Wales called an award-winning technologist “an idiot†— http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/001299.html
No wonder people are so hostile toward Wales. Liars aren’t often adored by their victims. Sad to see Georgetown stooping to such a level of hypocrisy, playing host to this fraud.
Wow, they printed that.
Audio of the speech is available. Of course, Jimmy begins his talk with "So..."
Jimbo was also introduced as "Miss Jimmy Wales".
At 1:10:00, Waeckerle dances around the issue of anonymity, saying that in most cases it leads to bad things, but completely side-steps Wikipedia as one of the most obnoxious sites on the Internet. Jimbo also dismisses the "problem" on Wikipedia, because the "really bad stuff" gets removed quickly. Oh really? Why is JzG not "removed"?
Jimbo was also introduced as "Miss Jimmy Wales".
At 1:10:00, Waeckerle dances around the issue of anonymity, saying that in most cases it leads to bad things, but completely side-steps Wikipedia as one of the most obnoxious sites on the Internet. Jimbo also dismisses the "problem" on Wikipedia, because the "really bad stuff" gets removed quickly. Oh really? Why is JzG not "removed"?
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