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This is where the copyleft movement lose it: they are so worried about their loss of freedoms that they do not see the harm. They quite happily put up an analysis that says "Ha, you can't do this, go away you nasty man." without answering the question of how the harmed individual does get satisfaction. They want a one way street.
Correct. An interesting question is what comes into play when if/when it's factual information in some cases, however. In the US at least, truth is an absolute legal defense against libel, slander, or defamation charges (and an ethical and moral one, really).
At a quick glance, what looks like a problem revision, #196271256, is sourced entirely except for allegations of a resignation from a US firm--that source, #10, is dead. Definitely was a shitty article, either way, but unless I'm missing something obvious I didn't see any overtly untruthful statement(s) except for the passage about the former Australian Prime Minister. Weird.
It looks like a CYA pruning of the article by the Wikimedia Foundation. But, if they mailed Godwin and the WMF about this, how did it trickle down to the regular admins without an official action/statement by the WMF? Curious.
NPOV wise it was a nightmare.
Ah, looks like Alison oversighted and hid the bad stuff:
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Please. I've been watching this page all day as well as the newspaper reports, and have been biting my tongue. Let me just say that the oversighted edits referred to in the letter and in the newspaper had nothing to do with Mr. Trujillo's business or political affairs whatsoever. It was more of a blatant and highly personalized attack upon his character. Oversight policy and privacy policy means I cannot say more than that, and cannot divulge the contents, which I saw and personally removed. The Telegraph article is more accurate when they refer to "highly defamatory, false and offensive personal comments" - Alison ⤠05:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Jimbo on the talk page:
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The press is suggesting that Mr. Trujillo must have done something to get Wikipedia to take down legitimate criticism of him. This is absolutely false. Mr. Trujillo's attorneys made a serious of justified complaints about an IP number inserting vicious libel against him, complaints which we dealt with appropriately and effectively. There has been absolutely no effort by those attorneys to remove legitimate criticism; indeed, nothing of the sort was even discussed.
It is sad to see a media so irresponsible as to make it seem that Wikipedia would cave to a few lawyers letters objecting to legitimate criticism. It is even sadder to see Mr. Trujillo attacked by that same irresponsible media for something that he did not do.
This article should be a good article. It should detail Mr. Trujillo's career in a neutral and responsible fashion. It should contain both accomplishments and appropriate mention of legitimate criticism. The libel, which was disgusting lies put forward by an anonymous ip number who I hope Mr. Trujillo tracks down and punishes for their attacks, had nothing to do with his business work but was just a juvenile insult.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
The magic oversight gap, I think:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=190877982