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How do you know if what’s in Wikipedia is trustworthy? Researchers at the University of California at Santa Cruz’s WikiLab have a created a color-coded ...


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Jon Awbrey
QUOTE(Newsfeed @ Mon 30th June 2008, 11:34am) *

U. of California Researchers Hold Wikipedia Authors Accountable

Chronicle of Higher Education (subscription) — 1 hour ago

How do you know if what’s in Wikipedia is trustworthy? Researchers at the University of California at Santa Cruz’s WikiLab have a created a color-coded ...

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Orange Alert !!!

Orange Alert !!!


Apparently the Cult of the Amateur is not Limited to Wikipedia.

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Dzonatas
Greasemonkey extensions can already do this.
thekohser
I am working on an innovative new color-coding plan for automobiles. Those vehicle models that receive the lowest highway safety ratings (Buick Rendezvous, Ford Ranger, Nissan Frontier, etc.) will have a red sticker affixed to the lower right corner of their license plate. The next-least safe vehicles will get an orange sticker. And so on, up to the safest models on the road (Lexus ES300, Volkswagen Passat, Saturn VUE, etc.), which would get a bright green sticker with a smiley face imprinted on it.

This way, when you are driving and get into an accident, you will be able to crawl out of the wreckage and hobble over to examine the small, color-coded sticker on the other vehicle. If the sticker is red, you'll be able to say, "Damn, that was an unsafe vehicle that hit me! I knew something was fishy about him just before he rammed me." If the sticker is green, you'll have the leeway to say, "Wow, I wouldn't have expected that a safe <INSERT BRAND HERE> would have ruined my day with a near-fatal accident. Thank God for these stickers, though. They're reliable -- like Wikipedia!"

I hope to present my new initiative at the next summit of academics sponsored by the Chronicle of Higher Education. I hope that you all will be able to attend.
Jon Awbrey
Ingenious as that is, Greg, I have a Better Ideaâ„¢.

Require all auto makes and models to roll off their factory floors in Green only, but with the warmer spectrum of color-tinted microcapsules embedded in the initial paint job, designed in such a way that the car will turn from Yellow to Orange to Red to Fuchsia with increasing frequency of run-ins with other cars. This will give drivers a clear indication of who to avoid on the road. People who drink or cell-phone and drive will of course be issued only Fuchsia cars to start.

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thekohser
Great idea, Jon.

But if you really want to give it the Wikipediot touch, anyone who inadvertently drives behind a Fuchsia car and agrees with the way that driver is driving, will also have their car automatically painted Fuchsia by a 16-year-old who has never driven a car before.
Moulton
Would one of the mods please rename this thread, Back To the Fuchsia.
Rootology
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th June 2008, 2:51pm) *

Would one of the mods please rename this thread, Back To the Fuchsia.


Fucker, I just spit soda.
Moulton
QUOTE(Rootology @ Mon 30th June 2008, 5:56pm) *
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th June 2008, 2:51pm) *
Would one of the mods please rename this thread, Back To the Fuchsia.
Fucker, I just spit soda.

Don't thank me. Thank Doc Brown.
Rootology
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th June 2008, 3:00pm) *

QUOTE(Rootology @ Mon 30th June 2008, 5:56pm) *
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th June 2008, 2:51pm) *
Would one of the mods please rename this thread, Back To the Fuchsia.
Fucker, I just spit soda.

Don't thank me. Thank Doc Brown.


You built a time machine... out of an encyclopedia?!
Moulton
QUOTE(Rootology @ Mon 30th June 2008, 6:01pm) *
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th June 2008, 3:00pm) *
QUOTE(Rootology @ Mon 30th June 2008, 5:56pm) *
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th June 2008, 2:51pm) *
Would one of the mods please rename this thread, Back To the Fuchsia.
Fucker, I just spit soda.
Don't thank me. Thank Doc Brown.
You built a time machine... out of an encyclopedia?!

Yes. It's a Time Sink, built with a Fux Capacitor.
Jon Awbrey
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th June 2008, 5:51pm) *

Would one of the mods please rename this thread, Back To the Fuchsia.


I can hardly wait for the sequel —

Fuchsia 2

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Jon Awbrey
On third thought, though, I think we've probably wasted a excess of Gray cells on this color-coding problem. A much simpler solution would be to follow the model of UC Santa Claus Checkin-A-List Method, and simply design cars that turn a shade more Orange every time you put them in reverse. This will of course require drivers who want to keep their licenses very long at all to install both front and back doors on their garages, or else buy houses with circular driveways. But, hell, we are talking California-Centrism here.

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Jon Awbrey
QUOTE

History will record that WikiLabbers at UCSC invented the science of Wikiphrenology. Other centers of research will rush to imitate their great leap forward. It’s easy enough. Just find something you can measure with great precision — any old thing will do — and consensually proclaim that it must have some kind of objective validity. No fussy reality-testing required.

— Jon Awbrey, 30 Jun 2008, 11:12 PM

Peter Damian
I think this is pretty good. Here is Zermelo set theory as I wrote it in 2003

http://wiki-trust.cse.ucsc.edu/index.php?t...y&oldid=1457073

You see it is all orange because the author has gained no trust in the system. Now here it is in January 2007

http://wiki-trust.cse.ucsc.edu/index.php?t...oldid=101040161

and you see that author (me) has gained a considerable degree of trust within the whole system. Compare that to the level of trust the same author holds among the humans there, and you will understand why I prefer the machine.

[EDIT]

Oops change my mind. Here is Hume's principle pretty much as I wrote it in 2005.

http://wiki-trust.cse.ucsc.edu/index.php?t...&oldid=21029537

Now here it is as rewritten by Richard Heck, who is one of the most greatly respected philosophers of mathematics today

http://wiki-trust.cse.ucsc.edu/index.php?t...&oldid=67744523

You see it is all orange. Perhaps that is because he had not been long editing there? Also, most of the changes he made at that point were organisational. The system does not seem able to spot the distinction between moving paragraphs around, stylistic changes, versus content changes.

Here is a precise example of this error happening. This paragraph

QUOTE
Algebra and arithmetic [are] the only sciences, in which we can carry on a chain of reasoning to any degree of intricacy, and yet preserve a perfect exactness and certainty. We are possessed of a precise standard, by which we can judge of the equality and proportion of numbers; and according as they correspond or not to that standard, we determine their relations, without any possibility of error. When two numbers are so combined, as that the one has always a unit answering to every unit of the other, we pronounce them equal; and it is for want of such a standard of equality in [spatial] extension, that geometry can scarce be esteemed a perfect and infallible science. (I. III. I.)

http://wiki-trust.cse.ucsc.edu/index.php?t...&oldid=55951382


is entirely orange in Heck's revision. But in the older revision exactly the same paragraph is coloured white.

http://wiki-trust.cse.ucsc.edu/index.php?t...&oldid=67744523

The system has not spotted that an added indent is not material to the content of the article.
Jon Awbrey
Wiki-Truss

Orange you glad Mathematics is founded on Proof — not Feng Shui?

I know I am …

Besides all that, Wiki-Truss is a year and half out-of-date:

QUOTE

The demo contains all the articles as of the February 6, 2007 snapshot of the Wikipedia, the last for which we have a complete dump.


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thekohser
QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 1st July 2008, 7:55am) *

I think this is pretty good. ...and you see that author (me) has gained a considerable degree of trust within the whole system. Compare that to the level of trust the same author holds among the humans there, and you will understand why I prefer the machine.


The Arch Coal article, which is still remarkably similar to what I originally wrote, thanks to the fact that JzG plagiarized the original, is to be nearly completely trusted, according to Santa Cruz. There's just a hint of orange in a couple of spots.

Yet, I was banned from Wikipedia for creating this article -- for free -- and releasing it under the terms of the GFDL.

What does that say about the system?

Greg
Jon Awbrey
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 1st July 2008, 10:11am) *

The Arch Coal article, which is still remarkably similar to what I originally wrote, thanks to the fact that JzG plagiarized the original, is to be nearly completely trusted, according to Santa Cruz. There's just a hint of orange in a couple of spots.

Yet, I was banned from Wikipedia for creating this article — for free — and releasing it under the terms of the GFDL.

What does that say about the system?

Greg


That version was copied from Wikipedia Review on 19 Sep 2006 and last updated on 20 Jan 2007.

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Jon Awbrey
Hmmm …

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thekohser
QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Tue 1st July 2008, 9:54pm) *

Hmmm …

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How appropriate that the "tart orange" be about the only thing on that page not colored orange!

Greg
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