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<img alt="" height="1" width="1" />Ron Livingston sues [b]Wikipedia over gay rumors[/b]
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funny; imho.

Defamation is funny?

no. defamation is not good. that is why flagged revisions should be implimented.


that the vandal is being gone after now by the human allegedly defamed... with teeth.. that is perhaps funny... also it sort of isn't... but it is more funny than the defamation itself... which imho isn't too funny for the most part. ya? <3

<img alt="" height="1" width="1" />Ron Livingston vs. [b]Wikipedia: Experts Weigh In[/b]
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When actor Ron Livingston recently filed a lawsuit against a Wikipedia editor, he encountered the so-called “Streisand effect. ...



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News Flash ―


From the tenor of all these MSM articles, do you get the feeling they're just jealous they don't have Immunity From Responsibility, too?

Give 'em time …

Jon

This article is actually sub-titled: "Wikipedia experts weigh in" on the Livingston lawsuit. Which means apologists Jay Walsh and Andrew Lih.

Some choice quotes from Jay Walsh, WMF's meretricious mealy-mouthed deception-machine. (Otherwise known as corporate PR man, but that's just repeating insults).



They understand it. But they don't give a shit about it.



Did you catch the logic? Maybe not. The sheer SCOPE of the project is such that the site has adopted a POLICY which has nothing whatsoever to do with the scope. It's not as though they haven't revealed what they know of user identity before, under legal pressure, you know. If you didn't actually catch the connection between "due to this"--> "therefore that", it's because there isn't any. This is communications director boloney.



What Andrew Lih means, is that such vandalism on BLPs of "not extremely famous" people is difficult to stop if you insist on having an encyclopedia policy which allows such articles. Not addressed is the question of why Wikipedia does. They'd rather talk about how hard it is to do anything about them once the policy is in place. Deflect, deflect, deflect. Don't talk about the real problem.





Sure enough. A bit of truth. It's indeed not new. Also not new is that Wikipedia's policy is not to do anything about it. Which they could, by simply prohibiting such articles. Walsh does not mention this.



Or not. An IP can be from anywhere and be completely untraceable.



"Select" meaning that only people who have a paid email account can edit it. And what's the point of that, if an IP address "can help trace a user's identity?" The "locking option" (sprotection) must be better, no--- else why do it? Left unanswered is why this isn't the default for all such biographies? Answer: because WMF doesn't give a shit.

And now the pièce de résistance of media puffery: Walsh again, with an incredible assertion:



If you caught that, it means Walsh is suggesting that this bad publicity and need to file a lawsuit has helped Livingston, because now many Wikipedians willl watch this BLP more closely. One supposes lawsuits are a good thing, then. But in any case, you see, WMF is actually DOING HIM A FAVOR by now watching his bio more closely. Yes they are.

If there's any justice or karma in the universe, sometime somewhere in the future Jay Walsh himself will have a Wiki-bio up somewhere on the web, that he cannot remove. And it will say that he graduated suma cum dummy from Shit For Brains College, with a degree in advanced point-avoidance studies. And if not, we can adjust it so it does.

My second reading of the WSJ article makes me even angrier than the first —

Blah, blah, Barbra Streisand, ha ha ha, it's all HIS fault for trying to CENSOR information !!!

Still blasé after all these years … they can't even come up with an Original Xcuse … "It's just like that Seigenthaler guy … it's all HIS fault for not being famous enough — like Britney or Madonna or somebody really important — the poor sap just don't rate enough Wikipediots watching his Bio Page for us to give a hoot …"

Jon

The more I reflect on the Ron Livingston debacle, the more I begin to see it as a test case for the proposition that the MSM (Main Scream Media) and the WMF (Wiki Machination Front), who I used to regard as antagonists, are actually partners in a conspiracy of incompetence.

Jon

Actually, the WMF didn't semi-protect his BLP (I did), so the article is quite wrong there. If the WMF had done, that would have been way more interesting as it's a likely Sec. 230 breaker

No, it's not. When are you people going to stop getting wrong what actually does breach §230 protection? About the only thing that would breach §230 protection is a big blinking sign that says "POST SALACIOUSLY FALSE CONTENT HERE NOW! THE JUICIER THE BETTER!"

"You people" - lol

Much like the shifting sands of Wikipedia, this sentence has been modified on the WSJ blog post to say, "Wikimedia administrators have..."

Are you a "Wikimedia administrator", Alison?

Kinda. Wikimedia Commons and Meta-wiki. They screwed up, I guess. Third time's the charm

How do you explain the fact that Mike Godwin is eager to dissociate himself from actions that determine content on Wikipedia? I've seen this tendency more than once from him.

That's okay, it's an honour to be selected …

For those who are keeping score, the current title is:

Ron Livingston vs. Wikipedia Editor : The Challenge of Policing the Web

Congratulations! You're On Da Force Now!

Apparently something as hum-drum as "The Challenge Of Checking Sources Before You Go To Press" has yet to occur to the Conspiracy Of Incompetence (COI) that makes up — and I do mean "makes up" — the New World Ordure of MSM Cum WMF.

Jon

Yes, but in fairness, this is a characteristic of just about all journalism, including that which has nothing to do with WMF. Journalists SOMETIMES read bits of articles prior to publication to the subject or source, for fact-check, but it is VERY rare that they pass the whole draft in front of them before it goes to press. The only other person who gets to see THAT, is the senior editor who is interested in style, grammar, and length, and knows beams about the subject-matter.

The result of this is newspaper articles predictably full of error. In response to the pointing out of which, the rag in question usually says "We stand by our sources/story" (translation: screw you). Very occasionally when the error is eggregious and its content either trivial or monumental, the media will dole out the old tired "Rag X regrets the errror". They don't regret it at all. Anybody who truly regrets/repents of an error or sin can be identified by how hard they work to make restitution for damage, AND change their behavior so it never happens again. Journalists do neither of these things.

All of which highlight the difference of errors in science journals vs. errors in major newspapers. Sources which Wikipedia officially finds equivalent.

Razzzzberrries to you, WP. You've been Sliimmed, Shanked, Mantan'ed, and Binmore'd repeatedly. Evidently you don't mind it.

Instead of barnstars, I propose we hand out to certain WMF officials (Jay Walsh, Jimbo Wales, Sue Gardner, Eric Moeller) and a number of "editors" a new award: The Can of Crisco. It makes insertion of all those barnstars nearly painless.

And obviously they've been recommending handfuls of it to the general public, for years: "So what if you've been reamed by your BLP on WP? We're working on a technical fix!"

Okay, so I'm dating myself‡ by remembering my life in a parallel unaverse in a galaxy far far away and long long ago.

Crisco? Why the hell would we wanna make it painless? I'm thinking Balm of Bengué might be more the Dragée of Choice.

Jon

‡ Not for attribution — some people are just bound to read that wrong.

Risk aversion + non US jurisdictions.

Kelly, as usual, is right. Sec. 230 is not fragile. If WMF doesn't make or contribute to the content themselves, they aren't liable.

THAT was some history I didn't know. Somehow I think the things were made with menthol (as named at the end of the abstract), not methanol, as it first suggests.

I thought you going to recommend Bengay ointment instead of Crisco, especially for WMF officials.

As usual, there are no good puns: Bengay ointment (Ben-Gay prior to 1995) was invented by a French doctor Jules Bengué with the name Americanized. Bengué is the same guy who pushed the cocaine pills you reference. The menthol in them is similar to that in the ointment. Bengué was obviously one of the first people to catch on to what the substance P receptor does, both in the gut and skin-- though of course he had no idea of the mechanism. He just knew that stingy-burny stuff worked, and also anesthetic stuff on top of it.

Dear Mods,

What does it take around here to get out of this Media Mosh Pit?

Jon