....and unblocked by crony Scarian...

Incidentally anybody want to start a pool on the word count of FT2's "clarification"? My guess is 20,404 words which will probably amount to the Essjay defense of "I had to lie to protect myself and my family from the uber-evil WR stalkers"

Obviously Bish has just heavily invested in popcorn stocks and is trying to make a quick return on investment. *munch* –xeno (talk) 21:48, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Damned right. Pass the salt. GbT/c 21:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It is simply ludicrous that people think they can solve problems like this. Yes, FT2 is obviously unfit to be an arbitrator, and arguably unfit to hold any position of responsibility on the site. But for Bishonen to swoop in and ban him based solely on her own say-so? It's just incredible to me that Wikipedia cannot grow out of such stupidity. FT2 is a long-standing contributor and any decision about blocking him should be based on the will of the community, not a single admin's say-so. Regardless of what happens to FT2, Bishonen (and/or her dinosaur alter-ego) should be desysopped.

FT2 is an obvious kook, and makes the entire project look ridiculous. It only shows how poorly things work here that he could get any position of responsibility, much less keep it for any length of time. However, I can't imagine this block will stick, and I can see all manner of drama ensuing. I think social ostracism works better than a block in cases like this. Friday (talk) 21:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I seriously think Bishonen should start an RFC on FT2. Blocking him like this is punitive. The encyclopedia isn't being damaged with him editing it. Majorly talk 21:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm not exactly sure what good this is supposed to do. What exactly is the block going to prevent - and if we're going to be creative - what behavior, practice, norm, policy, or principle is being assuaged here?--Tznkai (talk) 21:34, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
WP:RFC time. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:35, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Friday, please don't throw around terms like "kook". This is a delicate matter and inflammatory words might only cause problems. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Bishonen just followed WP:BOLD.

Clearly she's fed up with FT2's inability (or deliberate refusal) to give a straightforward answer to an apparently simple question. My guess is that she hopes the heat of a massive dramafest will force him to either answer or bail.

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

You know, time was we blocked editors for disruption. Blocking to get attention and make a fuss doesn't seem very sensible to me. --TS 21:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

Hypocrisy at a finest.

As far as I am aware, nobody has ever been sanctioned for wheel-warring for undoing a single admin action (that hadn't already been undone). According to the letter of [[WP:WHEEL]], wheel-warring doesn't actually start until somebody redoes an admin action that has already been undone once, and I believe that's usually how it's enforced (when it's enforced).

sarcasticidealist (who is here and I'm sure will comment) put AN/I back on semi-protection.

I'm struggling to understand how she could think causing a huge dramafest is a positive result. What is her goal here?

It is simply ludicrous that people think they can solve problems like this. Yes, FT2 is obviously unfit to be an arbitrator, and arguably unfit to hold any position of responsibility on the site. But for Bishonen to swoop in and ban him based solely on her own say-so? It's just incredible to me that Wikipedia cannot grow out of such stupidity. FT2 is a long-standing contributor and any decision about blocking him should be based on the will of the community, not a single admin's say-so. Regardless of what happens to FT2, Bishonen (and/or her dinosaur alter-ego) should be desysopped.

As far as I am aware, nobody has ever been sanctioned for wheel-warring for undoing a single admin action (that hadn't already been undone). According to the letter of [[WP:WHEEL]], wheel-warring doesn't actually start until somebody redoes an admin action that has already been undone once, and I believe that's usually how it's enforced (when it's enforced).

I hope Bishonen thought long and hard about the amount of heat she's about to take before she did this.

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

Yeah, as in

Shame the flaming Godzilla version of Bish never made it to sysop, or the block could have been done by "it" as an even more drawwhmaitc move. Zoophilia fought with a radioactive Japanese monstermovie creature. Hmmm. Appropriate.

Shame the flaming Godzilla version of Bish never made it to sysop, or the block could have been done by "it"

It is simply ludicrous that people think they can solve problems like this. Yes, FT2 is obviously unfit to be an arbitrator, and arguably unfit to hold any position of responsibility on the site. But for Bishonen to swoop in and ban him based solely on her own say-so? It's just incredible to me that Wikipedia cannot grow out of such stupidity. FT2 is a long-standing contributor and any decision about blocking him should be based on the will of the community, not a single admin's say-so. Regardless of what happens to FT2, Bishonen (and/or her dinosaur alter-ego) should be desysopped.

It was done by it - she had the bit transferred.

Statement by Jehochman

I suggest the entire matter be sent to Jimbo for sorting. The Committee is not competent to handle this matter, or they would have done so already. Jehochman Talk 22:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I never would have expect to see you in the "longstanding contributors should be unaccountable for their actions" crowd, who seem to be the ones advocating this hogwash.

I'm struggling to understand how she could think causing a huge dramafest is a positive result. What is her goal here?

Jimbo has already stated he's not going to act on this.

It is simply ludicrous that people think they can solve problems like this. Yes, FT2 is obviously unfit to be an arbitrator, and arguably unfit to hold any position of responsibility on the site. But for Bishonen to swoop in and ban him based solely on her own say-so? It's just incredible to me that Wikipedia cannot grow out of such stupidity. FT2 is a long-standing contributor and any decision about blocking him should be based on the will of the community, not a single admin's say-so. Regardless of what happens to FT2, Bishonen (and/or her dinosaur alter-ego) should be desysopped.

Oh every time I go away for a day or two a huge dramafest occurs.

Durova's summary in the RfAr is excellent.

Guess FT2 could be like that guard that shot Grant in L.A. BART station. When the guard was approached with the situation that he had to answer questions... he resigned to avoid it.