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RMHED
QUOTE(Mike R @ Fri 11th December 2009, 3:51pm) *

QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:01am) *

Curiouser and curiouser.

Do you have an objective or agenda in mind?

Her objective is lulz, of course!

No, I doubt that lulz (shudder) is the motivation. The real motivation is somewhat darker and ever so slightly sinister.
Lar
QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 2:48pm) *

The "hate triangle" between WP, WR, and ED goes something like:

WP thinks WR and ED are hateful, vulgar, harassing sites making unfair attacks.
WR thinks WP and ED are irresponsible places of anonymous/pseudonymous defamation.
ED thinks WP and WR take themselves way too seriously and are sources of lulz.

These distinctions were "purer" in the 2006-07 era, and have been highly muddied since now that people from each of these sites are active in the others.


Of course the truth of the matter is that what "each site thinks about the other two" is true of itself as well smile.gif... at least to some degree.

QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 2:50pm) *

No, I doubt that lulz (shudder) is the motivation. The real motivation is somewhat darker and ever so slightly sinister.

Do tell.
EricBarbour
QUOTE(Lar @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:51am) *
QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 2:50pm) *
No, I doubt that lulz (shudder) is the motivation. The real motivation is somewhat darker and ever so slightly sinister.
Do tell.

She wants the MEGA-lulz. (Bring it, girl!)
the fieryangel
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:21pm) *

QUOTE(Lar @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:51am) *
QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 2:50pm) *
No, I doubt that lulz (shudder) is the motivation. The real motivation is somewhat darker and ever so slightly sinister.
Do tell.

She wants the MEGA-lulz. (Bring it, girl!)


Amen to that, Brother....

Being gay and partially black, I can live with the racism and homophobia (been there, done that...).

I still think that Alison is even cooler for pulling this off!

That's my story and I'm standin' by it!
RMHED
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:08pm) *

I still think that Alison is even cooler for pulling this off!

How dare you suggest Alison is adept at pulling things off, you fucking dirty minded perv.
the fieryangel
QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:22pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:08pm) *

I still think that Alison is even cooler for pulling this off!

How dare you suggest Alison is adept at pulling things off, you fucking dirty minded perv.


Hey, I'm sure that the pervs over at ED are capable of doing that for themselves....
RMHED
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:38pm) *

QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:22pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:08pm) *

I still think that Alison is even cooler for pulling this off!

How dare you suggest Alison is adept at pulling things off, you fucking dirty minded perv.


Hey, I'm sure that the pervs over at ED are capable of doing that for themselves....

Yes I'm sure you are.
gomi
QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:50am) *
No, I doubt that lulz (shudder) is the motivation. The real motivation is somewhat darker and ever so slightly sinister.

And involves some dark incident from someone's youth, that would have been better forgotten, but cannot be. scream.gif
GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 4:08pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:21pm) *

QUOTE(Lar @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:51am) *
QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 2:50pm) *
No, I doubt that lulz (shudder) is the motivation. The real motivation is somewhat darker and ever so slightly sinister.
Do tell.

She wants the MEGA-lulz. (Bring it, girl!)


Amen to that, Brother....

Being gay and partially black, I can live with the racism and homophobia (been there, done that...).

I still think that Alison is even cooler for pulling this off!

That's my story and I'm standin' by it!


That's ED usual response: We have a black person, gay person or we know black people, gay people. But that is weak given the extreme racism and homophobic content that the site hosts. ( including "Luz-ey" pics of lynching with racists slogans, while living family members of the victims still try to live their lives.) I could provide dozens of examples, which I did in a argument with BluArdvark at one point, much to Somey's chagrin. So chop-chop, Alison, get rid of that shit or be prepared to explain why you don't.
The Joy
QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am) *

You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.


Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? dry.gif

Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? sad.gif
Tarc
QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 5:45pm) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am) *

You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.


Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? dry.gif

Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? sad.gif


Dude, she's got important work to do. Calm down.
victim of censorship
QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:45pm) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am) *

You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.


Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? dry.gif

Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? sad.gif



Alison should not be a mod on wr.
Milton Roe
QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 11th December 2009, 4:18pm) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 5:45pm) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am) *

You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.


Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? dry.gif

Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? sad.gif


Dude, she's got important work to do. Calm down.

That pic which deserves a direct posting here. Behold:

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Cammeltoe, the OTHER cleavage.
RMHED
QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 11th December 2009, 11:55pm) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:45pm) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am) *

You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.


Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? dry.gif

Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? sad.gif



Alison should not be a mod on wr.

If Alison accepts a position of admin on ED, that's clear evidence that she shouldn't be an admin on any website that claims even a modicum of respectability.
Milton Roe
QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 5:07pm) *

If Alison accepts a position of admin on ED, that's clear evidence that she shouldn't be an admin on any website that claims even a modicum of respectability.

mellow.gif That CLAIMS a modicum, or actually HAS a modicum? hmmm.gif
Tarc
QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:07pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 11th December 2009, 11:55pm) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:45pm) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am) *

You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.


Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? dry.gif

Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? sad.gif



Alison should not be a mod on wr.

If Alison accepts a position of admin on ED, that's clear evidence that she shouldn't be an admin on any website that claims even a modicum of respectability.


Don't take this the wrong way, but please, shut the fuck up.

WP, WR, ED...all just remixes of the same tune. Stop acting like one has any more or less respectability than another.


GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:12pm) *

QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:07pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 11th December 2009, 11:55pm) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:45pm) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am) *

You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.


Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? dry.gif

Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? sad.gif



Alison should not be a mod on wr.

If Alison accepts a position of admin on ED, that's clear evidence that she shouldn't be an admin on any website that claims even a modicum of respectability.


Don't take this the wrong way, but please, shut the fuck up.

WP, WR, ED...all just remixes of the same tune. Stop acting like one has any more or less respectability than another.

Idiot.
dtobias
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm) *

Idiot.


When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute.
Milton Roe
QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 11th December 2009, 5:12pm) *

WP, WR, ED...all just remixes of the same tune. Stop acting like one has any more or less respectability than another.

Though there's no denying at least that some of them certainly take themselves more seriously than others.

Isn't it odd that there's sometimes more truth in comedy and satire than there is in sober ...soberness?

That's really the problem with "encyclopedic" as a word: it means we agree a priori to remove part of the essential truth of the human condition, which is all humor, satire, double entendre, punning, poetry, and snarky judgementalism. All the things that make WR and ED what they are, when they are used as part of the language of discourse, and not just subjects-of-themselves.

It occurs to me that the essential thing which defines an "encyclopedia" is not the breadth of its content and subject matter, nor its length, nor the medium it lives on. Actually, the key feature of the thing-- what we've all been missing, is "encyclopedic language." A mode of discourse which has essentially non-emotional Vulcan-hood as its goal. Which is really why there is no set of smilies for use on WP, even on its TALK pages. And why there is much fighting, since these things have a purpose.

ohmy.gif And now we begin to see the other connection of Randianism, Mr. Spock, civility, "neutrality", people with Asperger's and so on and so on, with WIKIPEDIA. An "encyclopedia" is where you can actually talk or write about humor, satire, double entendre, punning, poetry, sexuality, pornography, perversion and feces. So long as you do it as Mr. Spock would do it. huh.gif And this bleeds over into the TALK pages, too.

There is something in Jimbo, and I think in most high-mucky-muck Wikipedians (no, not Gerard or Guy-- no generalization is perfect), which is horrified by expression of high emotion. It's not that they don't have any. It's that they don't show it overtly (again, like Spock). This is classicism at its most essential, very Roman. Out with the romantic! It's not encyclopedic! And by "encyclopedic," what we mean is: not romantic! It can be biased and wrong and mean and ugly and stupid, so long as it's civil and (on the surface) emotionally cool. mellow.gif
RMHED
QUOTE(dtobias @ Sat 12th December 2009, 12:35am) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm) *

Idiot.


When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute.

No, calling them a fucking stupid cunt is far more satisfying.
GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:35pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm) *

Idiot.


When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute.


Idiot.
Tarc
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:45pm) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:35pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm) *

Idiot.


When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute.


Idiot.


Go vandalize edit Virgin Killer some more GBG. It'll make you feel better.
RMHED
QUOTE(Tarc @ Sat 12th December 2009, 12:53am) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:45pm) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:35pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm) *

Idiot.


When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute.


Idiot.


Go vandalize edit Virgin Killer some more GBG. It'll make you feel better.

Go fuck yourself with a marrow Tarc, it'll make you feel better, or so TenOfAllTrades tells me.
GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:53pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:45pm) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:35pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm) *

Idiot.


When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute.


Idiot.


Go vandalize edit Virgin Killer some more GBG. It'll make you feel better.


Thanks for making my point. DT hasn't had anything useful to say in quite a long time. He just chimes in now and then with false equivalency arguments from time to time. Which for all of his nonsense about free speech is the end of discussion and analysis. You're just another irresponsible Wikipedian. A critique of Wikipedia addressing issues of social responsibility has gained significant currency on this site. This has not been built on mindless name calling. It has earned its place sufficiently to deserve to call shallow "ïts all the same" bleatings with an "idiot" reply without further comment from time to time.
Tarc
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:02pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:53pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:45pm) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:35pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm) *

Idiot.


When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute.


Idiot.


Go vandalize edit Virgin Killer some more GBG. It'll make you feel better.


Thanks for making my point. DT hasn't had anything useful to say in quite a long time. He just chimes in now and then with false equivalency arguments from time to time. Which for all of his nonsense about free speech is the end of discussion and analysis. You're just another irresponsible Wikipedian. A critique of Wikipedia addressing issues of social responsibility has gained significant currency on this site. This has not been built on mindless name calling. It has earned its place sufficiently to deserve to call shallow "ïts all the same" bleatings with an "idiot" reply without further comment from time to time.


Idiot.

evilgrin.gif
Milton Roe
QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 5:59pm) *

Go fuck yourself with a marrow Tarc, it'll make you feel better, or so TenOfAllTrades tells me.

I hope Tarc is English or he won't even know what a marrow is.

Damn these parochial insults. They're so parochial.
dtobias
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:20pm) *

I hope Tarc is English or he won't even know what a marrow is.


Isn't it the stuff inside bones?
Sarcasticidealist
QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:43pm) *
Isn't it the stuff inside bones?
It's a squash of some sort. I learned that years ago from Agatha Christie's The Murder of Roger Ackroyd.
gomi
QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Fri 11th December 2009, 5:46pm) *
QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:43pm) *
Isn't it the stuff inside bones?
It's a squash of some sort. I learned that years ago from Agatha Christie's The Murder of Roger Ackroyd.

No, you're thinking of aubergine. It's fine, but if you order it, be sure they don't substitute eggplant!
Milton Roe
QUOTE(gomi @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm) *

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Fri 11th December 2009, 5:46pm) *
QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:43pm) *
Isn't it the stuff inside bones?
It's a squash of some sort. I learned that years ago from Agatha Christie's The Murder of Roger Ackroyd.

No, you're thinking of aubergine. It's fine, but if you order it, be sure they don't substitute eggplant!

LMGTFY
Cock-up-over-conspiracy
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:39pm) *
That's ED usual response: We have a black person, gay person or we know black people, gay people. But that is weak given the extreme racism and homophobic content that the site hosts.

Gosh, thank you for the inspiration ...

I must go write a topic on all the Korean VANKers active on the Pee-dia for ED. Like, "How to VANK on the Vikipedia" in Hangul.

Yes, go on Mr Brandt, give her an account.
Premier player
I'm sure Alison is far from naive and knows perfectly well that ED made her an admin to embarrass TOW (as they call it). No doubt we all agree that TOW deserves to be embarrassed, so good for her!

Incidentally, to add to her glittering list of accomplishments she's an admin on Encyc.
Milton Roe
QUOTE(Premier player @ Mon 14th December 2009, 5:05am) *

I'm sure Alison is far from naive and knows perfectly well that ED made her an admin to embarrass TOW (as they call it). No doubt we all agree that TOW deserves to be embarrassed, so good for her!

Incidentally, to add to her glittering list of accomplishments she's an admin on Encyc.

It's especially satirical that the WR BBS software leaves the thread-initiating message at the top of every thread-page, so that people who see how deep Alison is into this muck now, are regularly reminded of what she wrote last March. See above. biggrin.gif
Cock-up-over-conspiracy
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:39pm) *
That's ED usual response: We have a black person, gay person or we know black people, gay people. But that is weak given the extreme racism and homophobic content that the site hosts.
QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Sat 12th December 2009, 3:43am) *
Gosh, thank you for the inspiration ...


OK, I take back what I said and apologize ... I had no idea what ED really is/was. I have just had at look and seen the Alison and Brandt topics.

I get tired of folks using accusations of others alleged racism or prejudices as a leverage device (which is the history here) but that website is neither funny, stylish nor intelligent with it all.
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