* Strong delete – do not feed the trolls. –MuZemike 18:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
o The only trolls here seem to be the deletionists this time around. LiteralKa (talk) 19:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
+ Watch who you're calling a "deletionist" LiteralKa. Some people can actually see past this ruse. –MuZemike 19:50, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
# So legitimate content is a "ruse" now? LiteralKa (talk) 20:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
* I don't know. What else would you call freenode IRC canvassing in the form of "EDIT THIS SHIT FAGGOTS". In my opinion, this whole situation stinks. –MuZemike 20:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
o That wasn't even on Freenode. Additionally: When in Rome... LiteralKa (talk) 20:06, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
+ But they have been trolling the #freenode channel severely to the point where the ops had to shut the channel down. They've also repeated their terror on similar WP-related channels. –MuZemike 20:09, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
# How is that even relevant to canvassing? LiteralKa (talk) 20:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
* Because it's a clear attempt by this organization to wedge their article back on WP, and they're trying to do it by any means necessary. This is not the only time this has been attempted, either. –MuZemike 20:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
o So trolling IRC networks is really an attempt to get a wiki article? LiteralKa (talk) 20:13, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
+ That would be right. I can vouch for that, and so can others, including DiegoGrez above. –MuZemike 20:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
# Also, speaking of "trying to do it by any means necessary", deletionists did that to the old mainspace article dozens of times.
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**This is all off-wiki. Additionally, it seems you've mistaken a topic on a completely separate IRC network for freenode canvassing. Also, I'd like to point you to WP:IDONTLIKEIT Murdox (talk) 20:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

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+ And seriously, when does canvasing even matter for an *article*. There is no vote to change. LiteralKa (talk) 20:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
# Don't throw IDONTLIKEIT in my face; I know very well what that means. I am not changing my !vote, period. –MuZemike 20:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
* So now you have no point to make, and still wish to keep the vote? Very well. LiteralKa (talk) 20:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
o Figuring how this MFD is going, I'll see you at AFD #19. –MuZemike 20:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
+ So not only do you wish to keep trying, but you want to have yet another AFD. Don't game the system. LiteralKa (talk) 20:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
# Who said I was going to nominate it? Somebody eventually will, especially for something contentious as this. –MuZemike 20:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
* I sure didn't. Oh, I see you're included in CAT:RESTORE. Would it be at all possible to provide me with a copy of the old GNAA article? Thank you in advance. LiteralKa (talk) 20:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
o Despite our disagreements, I can do that. Wiki-page or email? –MuZemike 20:45, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
+ Wikipage would be more appropriate/useful. LiteralKa (talk) 20:47, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
# YesY Done User:LiteralKa/Gay Nigger Association of America –MuZemike 20:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
* Thank you. LiteralKa (talk) 21:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Other members involve a developer of Debian Linux[6]. Sam Hocevar, a former Debian Project Leader, has been questioned in the past regarding his affiliation with the GNAA on a public mailing list[7]

Sam's affiliation with the GNAA is beyond dispute. Despite being widely known at the time of his RFA, this earned him only six oppose votes. His performance as an admin was well above average.

He hosts a goatse tribute site, available at http://sam.zoy.org/goatse/ and cited in the goatse article on WP.

[snip]

He also designed the GNAA corporate logo.

Not much happened to Riffic's article, but on August 27, 2010, "Murdox" (possibly a GNAA sympathizer or member) created his own GNAA article in the userspace. Less than a hour later, PeterSymonds deleted the article and blocked Murdox. Alison reversed these actions.

On August 9, 2010, I noticed that Jimbo interfered with a GNAA article in the userspace.

I'm not sure if he actually designed that logo, but he certainly produced the Commons one which, BTW, I've now restored seeing as it's actively being used again.

That should be an SVG, surely.

Someone else can do it At least the colours are right now ...

...and WP doesn't block for off-wiki stuff ... right?

He also designed the GNAA corporate logo.

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# Request: LiteralKa, please provide links to the sources that establish notability. Please provide no more than four such links. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

* [1], Establishes link between Goatsec and GNAA, [2], and [3]. LiteralKa (talk) 04:39, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
o The first source provides little information about the group; GNAA is only mentioned as an example to: "The “find a group” section of the new Barack Obama social network contains a hard coded racial and sexual orientation slur." The article does not delve into the history or activities of GNAA. The second article mentions GNAA in passing. I was not able to find any mention of GNAA in the third and fourth sources.

Unless reliable sources that discuss GNAA in a nontrivial manner are found, my position is keep deleted. Cunard (talk) 05:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
+ The second link establishes a connection between the GNAA and Goatsec. Pay attention. LiteralKa (talk) 05:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
# Yes, but that is still a passing mention. Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline requires significant coverage in reliable sources. Cunard (talk) 05:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
# I'm not entirely sure why my userspace draft has already been put up for the DRV, but I'd like to offer [4] as a non-trivial publication reference. Murdox (talk) 05:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
* Much better; this brings GNAA closer to passing Wikipedia:Notability but is not enough. Are there more nontrivial reliable sources? Cunard (talk) 05:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
o this and everything that covered the iPad incident. LiteralKa (talk) 05:41, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Your URL link was broken. I fixed it here.

Yeah, dunno what happened there.

No problem. Nice to see the guy who Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Murdox/GNAA here. I guess that you really dislike the GNAA IRC. Out of curiosity, have you ever interacted with the GNAA (or vice versa), or did you simply "lurked" their channel?

The only interactions with the GNAA have been when I nominated the userspace article for deletion and when I "lurked" ( ) their channel

Then what's up with your fascination and incessant discussion about someone's user space draft? Grow up.

Also, the page is stupid in user space, not in user space, etc, because the GNAA and all people connected to it are stupid.

Hey Mods, ae we going to be taken over by GNAA trolls like the above?


Also, the page is stupid in user space, not in user space, etc, because the GNAA and all people connected to it are stupid.

The DRV has been closed as "No consensus to permit recreation". The article will remain salted.

It's not okay to have an article on the GNAA because Wikipedians don't like them, but it's okay to have an article for every species of Pokémon

Also, the page is stupid in user space, not in user space, etc, because the GNAA and all people connected to it are stupid.

Great scene. Also led me to this scene, which is indeed almost as bad, but you have to suspend your disbelief and pretend that you're 10 years old again.

Also, I created the Goatse Security (T-H-L-K-D) article a few days ago, and there doesn't appear to be any opposition so far.

(I'd like to nominate this guy for "WP Troll Of The Month.")

Oppose I wonder how Chile is a significant country?

I'm glad he finally got out.
That smart young man should not waste his time trying to bail out the Pacific.

Also, I created the Goatse Security (T-H-L-K-D) article a few days ago, and there doesn't appear to be any opposition so far.

Also, I believe the the MfD simply attracted a new contributor to the article: LiteralKa (T-C-L-K-R-D) . The Streisand effect at work.

You forgot to put weev's real name in your article. Is it because you are a sysop on Encyclopedia Dramatica, and weev, although he was desysopped after he was arrested, is still more powerful than you and might kick your butt on ED if you insert his real name? Or did you merely miss this article as well as this one?

Hey Mods, ae we going to be taken over by GNAA trolls like the above?


Also, the page is stupid in user space, not in user space, etc, because the GNAA and all people connected to it are stupid.

Well, I find that rather offensive. I'll bet that you haven't even talked to many, if any, of us. If you had, you'd find that the vast majority of us can conduct relatively intelligent and informed debate, discussion, and even small talk.

How's the weather down there?

Also, if I remove your current avatar, will you insist on putting it back?

That is a very likely outcome.

I think I can actually prevent you from putting it back, but of course, I wanted to give you the chance to help us avoid unnecessary fuss. I personally don't mind the idea of our having people here who purportedly represent GNAA in some capacity, but we do have rules against hate speech and so forth, so you'd have to be willing to avoid that at least.

I'm assuming it's not a photo of you... I guess it doesn't matter all that much big-picture-wise, but I was curious if the guy is a model or an actual person (not that models can't be actual people, but you know what I mean). If he's an actual person, then that's what we might call "contextually unacceptable."

This is indeed a picture of me. It is an old one, admittedly, but still my favorite.

[Y]our WP Username entry doesn't even point to an actual Wikipedia account.

Au contraire.

Sorry, I meant "Wikipedia account with more than zero edits at time of registration." But at least you're not trying to impersonate anybody... We try to be flexible about most things, but it's generally better if folks don't use "dummy" WP accounts in their WR profiles. It's not really necessary, and it might confuse people.

Anyway, you seem nice enough and all, and I'm not trying to provoke you or anything like that. I hope you can understand our position - it's difficult to strike a balance between serious criticism and observing the sorts of things WPers actually do, so when things happen that tip the balance one way or the other, it can be a little stressful.

Sorry, I meant "Wikipedia account with more than zero edits at time of registration." But at least you're not trying to impersonate anybody... We try to be flexible about most things, but it's generally better if folks don't use "dummy" WP accounts in their WR profiles. It's not really necessary, and it might confuse people.

Anyway, you seem nice enough and all, and I'm not trying to provoke you or anything like that. I hope you can understand our position - it's difficult to strike a balance between serious criticism and observing the sorts of things WPers actually do, so when things happen that tip the balance one way or the other, it can be a little stressful.

I realize that probably didn't make much sense...

If he's a mighty hacker, ask him to do something useful.

Anyway, your WP Username entry doesn't even point to an actual Wikipedia account.

Stop poking him. If he's a mighty hacker, ask him to do something useful.
Log into adler and erase the root passwords, that kind of thing.
Or not, I don't even care anymore.

I disagree with Wikipedia's use of CC-BY-SA/GFDL to license edits. I also do not feel that editing Wikipedia is a good use of my time.

But Twitter is? You are pretending HERE to be The_Black_Guy THERE, are you not? The Token Niger, as it were?