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Emperor
Read what others think. It might make you feel better.

Wikipedia Resignation Statements.

You might like White Guard in particular. Dude was interested in Russia, and really knew his stuff. He got sick of playing with Wikipedians relatively quickly.
mbz1
QUOTE(Emperor @ Tue 28th February 2012, 4:23pm) *

Read what others think. It might make you feel better.

Wikipedia Resignation Statements.

You might like White Guard in particular. Dude was interested in Russia, and really knew his stuff. He got sick of playing with Wikipedians relatively quickly.

Thank you for the links! It does help.
Tarc
QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 28th February 2012, 11:01am) *
Hey, sicko, I am giving you permission to reveal my personal info that connects me to gulag (I'd be very interested to know what it is)


It just meant that you're Russian. Nothing more insidious than that, sweetums.
mbz1
QUOTE(jayvdb @ Mon 27th February 2012, 11:43pm) *


I think a note at the top of the userpage is useful, but the notice could be a lot less aggressive than it currently is, and their previous webpage doesnt need to be removed in the process. Discussion about this has erupted at Wikipedia_talk:BAN#User_pages.

It sure is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=479276746
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Policy documents, and does not prescribe, common practice - so let's look at the typical approach to banned users' userpages. Virtually all userpages are replaced with the banned user template, and a small subset have the banned template added to the top of the userpage as it existed before the ban. There is no support among the community for listing a banned user's barnstar gallery under the banned template, as was done at [[User:Will Beback]]. There is no support for doing anything except: 1) replacing the whole talk page with the banned template; or 2) adding the banned template above the most recent userpage; or 3) adding the banned template above a leaving statement by the banned template. I am concerned that this thread would purport to be representative of the community's views when the majority of the community is not aware of this thread.....AGK [•] 10:18, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


AGK writes: "There is no support among the community for listing a banned user's barnstar gallery under the banned template". I wonder, if there is support among the community for listing a banned user's barnstar gallery above the banned template. smile.gif
mbz1
When an editor is banned, some do not consider this editor to be a human any more.
On February 25,2012 my image was a picture of the day on English wikipedia ,but for the first time I was given no credit at my talk page.
Just think about this: my image is good enough to be displayed at Wikipedia's main page, but my talk page is not good enough to give me a credit for this.
Wikifan
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Just think about this: my image is good enough to be displayed at Wikipedia's main page, but my talk page is not good enough to give me a credit for this.


that is pretty shitty imo. how many editors manage to have featured pictures? that is a very meaningful contribution that transcends whatever bullshit i/p crap you've been a part of.

wikipedia community and global readers get access to your photos but you dont get credit for it. it's an injustice.

Somey
QUOTE(Wikifan @ Tue 28th February 2012, 4:28pm) *
wikipedia community and global readers get access to your photos but you dont get credit for it. it's an injustice.

Is that even legal, under their (recently altered) content licensing scheme?
Tarc
QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 28th February 2012, 5:30pm) *

QUOTE(Wikifan @ Tue 28th February 2012, 4:28pm) *
wikipedia community and global readers get access to your photos but you dont get credit for it. it's an injustice.

Is that even legal, under their (recently altered) content licensing scheme?


rolleyes.gif

She's credited on the file itself; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:360_degrees_fogbow.jpg

She's whining about not having a "we used your image at POTD" notification on her talk page.
mbz1
QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 28th February 2012, 10:30pm) *

QUOTE(Wikifan @ Tue 28th February 2012, 4:28pm) *
wikipedia community and global readers get access to your photos but you dont get credit for it. it's an injustice.

Is that even legal, under their (recently altered) content licensing scheme?

They did nothing illegal. The image, when displayed at the Main page, had my name on it. They only did not give me a credit at my talk page. The credit for POTD is like a credit for DYK, which is nice to have at one's talk page.
The POTD credit looks like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mbz..._notification_9
This particular one was the last POTD credit I got. It was posted at the day I was banned, and for the life of mine I cannot understand what wrong would it have been, if they posted the same message for February 25 POTD.
jd turk
QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 28th February 2012, 12:50pm) *

On February 25,2012 my image was a picture of the day on English wikipedia [/url],but for the first time I was given no credit at my talk page.


Well, that's what happens when you give someone else your work. Lesson learned.
TungstenCarbide
QUOTE(jd turk @ Tue 28th February 2012, 11:35pm) *
QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 28th February 2012, 12:50pm) *
On February 25,2012 my image was a picture of the day on English wikipedia [/url],but for the first time I was given no credit at my talk page.
Well, that's what happens when you give someone else your work. Lesson learned.

Text
Good line, Joker.

Heh.

The fact is, Mila, you shouldn't care about the credit, you take pictures as a hobby because you enjoy doing it. Credit is something that is scarcely enforced online.
TungstenCarbide
QUOTE(Text @ Tue 28th February 2012, 11:53pm) *
... The fact is, Mila, you shouldn't care about the credit, you take pictures as a hobby because you enjoy doing it...

a hobby? She should be working for National Geographic.
mbz1
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Wed 29th February 2012, 12:11am) *

QUOTE(Text @ Tue 28th February 2012, 11:53pm) *
... The fact is, Mila, you shouldn't care about the credit, you take pictures as a hobby because you enjoy doing it...

a hobby? She should be working for National Geographic.

Thank you, but it is really just a hobby, and I guess after all I should be grateful to Wikipedia for giving me an opportunity to share my images because for me sharing images is one of the most important things.

BTW about National Geographic, one of my images is going to be shown in a documentary that is going to run at National Geographic channel in Spring, and I am sooo happy because of this. smile.gif
iii
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That's a very odd argument. I'm not sure we would honour such a request unless there was a compelling, real-life reason. If you edit Wikipedia under your own name, you acknowledge and accept that there are certain risks to doing so. If you edit under your real-name in so disruptive a way as to be banned, and you had no problem with the preceding disruptive behaviour reflecting badly on your real-name, then you could not reasonably take issue with a banned template. [[User:AGK|<font color="black">'''AGK'''</font>]] [[User talk:AGK#top|[•]]] 12:18, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


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This, Wikipedia, this is the kind of brilliance you have running the place.

For fuck's sake, little arbman, just because you think that every person banned has necessarily exhibited behavior so disruptive that it reflects "badly on your real name" doesn't make this peculiar belief of yours an immutable law of the universe. Badges of shame displayed prominently at one of the top ghits for a real name have a vindictive likelihood of causing damage when, for example, a potential employer does a perfunctory web search. Because, you see, the rest of the world cares not a lick about perusing user contributions or arbcom cases, but they will look at what appears to be a personal webpage hosted by Wikipedia and these little template messages carry with them primarily a meaning of, "this person is evil and can't be trusted". So nice of you fucks to spread that message to the world.

Seriously, someone should do something about the profound lack of education this asshat evinces. And he's making governance decisions?

Terrific. Terrific.
thekohser
QUOTE(iii @ Wed 29th February 2012, 10:45pm) *

For fuck's sake, little arbman, just because you think that every person banned has necessarily exhibited behavior so disruptive that it reflects "badly on your real name" doesn't make this peculiar belief of yours an immutable law of the universe.


I couldn't agree more, iii. In my case, I was banned twice. The first time was because I asked Durova to provide evidence to support her public claim that I had given misleading information to journalists that was published in the mainstream press. The second time was because I criticized too heavily a young man who refused to release a digital audio recording of an interview I had participated in with about 10 other people, because he said he was the only one who could "edit" the audio (it really didn't need much editing, other than to crop the intro/set-up), and that his pounding headaches prevented him from editing the audio, although the headaches seemed to have little adverse effect on his hours-long editing sprees on Wikipedia.
mbz1
QUOTE(iii @ Thu 1st March 2012, 3:45am) *

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That's a very odd argument. I'm not sure we would honour such a request unless there was a compelling, real-life reason. If you edit Wikipedia under your own name, you acknowledge and accept that there are certain risks to doing so. If you edit under your real-name in so disruptive a way as to be banned, and you had no problem with the preceding disruptive behaviour reflecting badly on your real-name, then you could not reasonably take issue with a banned template. [[User:AGK|<font color="black">'''AGK'''</font>]] [[User talk:AGK#top|[•]]] 12:18, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


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I believe this quote should be added to {{welcome}} message a new editor gets.

Right now {{welcome}} message links to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars Wikipedia:Five pillars and from there it links to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks Wikipedia:No personal attacks and from there it links to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLOCK Wikipedia:Blocking policy and from there it links to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Banning_policy Wikipedia:Banning policy.

So it is kind of hard to learn in advance what one user page will look like, if one gets banned.

And in my situation, in my wildest dreams I could not have imagined that after being under a self-requested block for 8 months I will get indefinitely blocked by govcom, and then banned by a lynch mob without any opportunity to say a word in my defense. hrmph.gif
mbz1
Another notable saying was made by Risker http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=479421656
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When someone is banned, it is the project's hope that the person will just go away; however, it's the long experience of the project that putting big red "banned" signs on the person's userpage is like waving a flag in front of a bull.

Is she suggesting that a banned person is like a bull who cannot wait to attack the 5th most popular website. or is it the 4th? 7th? She can never remember. hrmph.gif
iii
QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 29th February 2012, 11:58pm) *

Another notable saying was made by Risker http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=479421656
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When someone is banned, it is the project's hope that the person will just go away; however, it's the long experience of the project that putting big red "banned" signs on the person's userpage is like waving a flag in front of a bull.

Is she suggesting that a banned person is like a bull who cannot wait to attack the 5th most popular website. or is it the 4th? 7th? She can never remember. hrmph.gif


The waving a flag in front of a bull idiom normally implies unnecessary provocation that will lead to a response. I read Risker as being sensibly in favor of trying to end this practice, but comparing banned editors to less-than-sentient beasts seems the going fad at that dehumanizing enterprise.

It amazes me that the typical Wikipedia practice is to replace an entire webpage dedicated to a person with a stamp of disapproval and then prevent any future edits by protecting the page. It's simply bullying for the sake of bullying since the banned person is prevented from fighting back.
radek
QUOTE(iii @ Wed 29th February 2012, 11:49pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 29th February 2012, 11:58pm) *

Another notable saying was made by Risker http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=479421656
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When someone is banned, it is the project's hope that the person will just go away; however, it's the long experience of the project that putting big red "banned" signs on the person's userpage is like waving a flag in front of a bull.

Is she suggesting that a banned person is like a bull who cannot wait to attack the 5th most popular website. or is it the 4th? 7th? She can never remember. hrmph.gif


The waving a flag in front of a bull idiom normally implies unnecessary provocation that will lead to a response. I read Risker as being sensibly in favor of trying to end this practice, but comparing banned editors to less-than-sentient beasts seems the going fad at that dehumanizing enterprise.

It amazes me that the typical Wikipedia practice is to replace an entire webpage dedicated to a person with a stamp of disapproval and then prevent any future edits by protecting the page. It's simply bullying for the sake of bullying since the banned person is prevented from fighting back.


They should at least spruce it up:
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Gibbet (T-H-L-K-D)

Pillory (T-H-L-K-D)

Stocks (T-H-L-K-D)

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mbz1
QUOTE(iii @ Thu 1st March 2012, 3:45am) *

QUOTE
That's a very odd argument. I'm not sure we would honour such a request unless there was a compelling, real-life reason. If you edit Wikipedia under your own name, you acknowledge and accept that there are certain risks to doing so. If you edit under your real-name in so disruptive a way as to be banned, and you had no problem with the preceding disruptive behaviour reflecting badly on your real-name, then you could not reasonably take issue with a banned template. [[User:AGK|<font color="black">'''AGK'''</font>]] [[User talk:AGK#top|[•]]] 12:18, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


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I responded to it on Meta
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No, I could not have known

You wrote:"If you edit Wikipedia under your own name, you acknowledge and accept that there are certain risks to doing so. If you edit under your real-name in so disruptive a way as to be banned, and you had no problem with the preceding disruptive behaviour reflecting badly on your real-name, then you could not reasonably take issue with a banned template."

No, it is a wrong assumption. A normal person cannot predict what sick ones will do to him.

In my wildest dreams I could not have predicted I'd be blocked by a closed tribunal, a tribunal, in which I was not allowed to participate, a tribunal, which gave me no warning.

In my wildest dreams I could not have predicted I'd be banned by a sick, cowardly and mostly anonymous lynch mob with me not being allowed to say anything in my defense!

In my wildest dreams I could not have predicted I'd be blocked and then banned after I was under a self-requested block for more than 6 months!, and for something I did on Meta. Even now banned Will Beback called my ban "a precedent"

So, no, I could have predicted what was coming my way. I was editing under my real life name. It is at my pictures that are displayed at my user page. I know it is useless to ask you to remove the sick template. That's why I am asking you to remove the pictures, and redirect my talk to my user page. If you have some compassion still left in you, you'll do it. If you do not...well it is not my problem.--Mbz1 (talk) 11:12, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

p.s. Also you write "The point of the template is to make it clear that a user is banned. As a checkuser, I know this is necessary when I'm tracking accounts back to blocked users; I need to know if there is a banned user at work in a given situation, and other checkusers and administators surely must too." It is BS. There is nothing different for CU process between blocked and banned users, and besides there's a list of banned users in case you did not know.--Mbz1 (talk) 11:12, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


And AGK responded, confirming that everything I said was the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. smile.gif
jd turk
QUOTE(mbz1 @ Thu 1st March 2012, 8:49am) *

And AGK responded, confirming that everything I said was the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.


When people just delete what you've written and ignore you, it doesn't indicate you are correct. It just indicates you have gone on for far too long.
mbz1
The thing is that I suddenly realized I no longer wish to have my pictures with my real name at the same page with the template added there by sickos, and done

mbz1
I will never get amazed on how sick some so called functionaries are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=479677708 by Beeblebrox
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So, how about this: for users temporarily banned by arbcom, we can have something milder. For users indefinitely site banned by the community, we keep the stop sign. These folks ''need'' to be told as strongly as possible that they are not welcome here.


Doesn't it understand that a banned editor knows he/she is not welcomed to an insane asylum of Wikipedia , but why wikipedia should show to the whole world how insane it really is. confused.gif

Here's what Kevin responded to AGK http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=479586175
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No, it's not odd at all. Wikipedians might well be able to understand the significance, or lack thereof, of the banned template. Outsiders however, who may well find the user's page at the top of a Google search, may have no such understanding. The consequences in real life could well be severe, and out of all proportion to whatever led to being banned. [[User:Kevin|Kevin]] ([[User talk:Kevin|talk]]) 06:28, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

and Risker agreed http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=479607205
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I agree with those who prefer no template at all. The user's sanction is posted on his talk page, and the block is applied. That is all that is required. Applying a scarlet letter is unnecessary in almost every case; it certainly does not need to be done on the userpage. [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker|talk]]) 07:04, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Wikifan
hey mbz1, do u take any responsibility for why you were banned?

i get it, it's hard to respect the judicial process at wikipedia because it is so corrupt and unfair. but every editor cannot be wrong. if you showed a little humility (whether you feel it or not) maybe you wouldn't have gotten shafted as you were.

in any case, nothing is going to change and anymore protest is probably just amusing for the admins/editors behind your ban.

so go become a sockpuppet or move on like all other perma-banned editors.

Malik Shabazz
mbz1, why did you request that your User pages be blanked?

Edited to add: Never mind, I see that Ronhjones went back and deleted the "Banned" notice from your User talk page and added a "Retired" banner.
mbz1
QUOTE(Malik Shabazz @ Thu 1st March 2012, 9:34pm) *

mbz1, why did you request that your User pages be blanked?

I explained it above, but here's one more time.
My images have my real life name. They were displayed just below the badge of shame.
I simply decided I do not want my real name to be associated with my user page.
It hurts me in a real life, and hurts me a lot.
The badge of shame could not be removed because "banned means banned", but pictures could be removed with no harm to wikipedia hrmph.gif So that's why I asked to remove the pictures.
Of course it is still very easy to find out my real name, but at least it will not be at the same page.
Is my explanation satisfactory?
Malik Shabazz
QUOTE(mbz1 @ Thu 1st March 2012, 4:43pm) *

I explained it above, but here's one more time.

Sorry I missed it.
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Is my explanation satisfactory?

Makes perfect sense.
Selina
If you don't want people googlestalking to find your page still it's probably best to ask to get your user name removed from the image descriptions too, and you can probably ask for the account name to be changed -- when you look in the history of the page it is all still there, you need them to do wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:REVDEL
mbz1
QUOTE(Selina @ Thu 1st March 2012, 10:26pm) *

If you don't want people googlestalking to find your page still it's probably best to ask to get your user name removed from the image descriptions too, and you can probably ask for the account name to be changed -- when you look in the history of the page it is all still there, you need them to do wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:REVDEL


I could ask for the account name to be changed, but it will not be granted. Banned users are not not allowed to change the name of the account. Besides it will be something like RTV, and IMO it will be kind of cowardly of me to ask for this.It will be as recognizing I've done something wrong, and want to hide behind a new name. And I have done nothing wrong. I am proud of what I have done, and if I knew in advance what wikisickos will do to me, I would have done it anyway.

Changing the name on my images... Well, it could be done even by myself. I am not blocked on Commons, at least not yet, but there are a thousand or so images. I have neither time nor strength to do it.

So, if everything that is left from my contributions on wikipedia is that badge of shame at my user page, so it be.

The only thinks that saddens me sometime is that even after I die, my Wikipedia user page will still have that template.
Emperor
I miss Moulton. This calls for an Ozymandias parody.
Zoloft
QUOTE(Emperor @ Thu 1st March 2012, 5:55pm) *

I miss Moulton. This calls for an Ozymandias parody.

I placed a {{noindex}} tag at the top. Google be damned.
Selina
QUOTE(mbz1 @ Thu 1st March 2012, 11:29pm) *
Changing the name on my images... Well, it could be done even by myself. I am not blocked on Commons, at least not yet, but there are a thousand or so images. I have neither time nor strength to do it.
You can do it smile.gif ask one of the bot people politely - wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JaGa seems a nice guy he runs the hugebig disambiguation one

and yeah........ I don't think it's really worth a parody tho, more poignant

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IN Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand."— The City's gone,—
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder,—and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
– Horace Smith.


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(via hero026.edublogs.org/ozymandias-analysis )


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(via junecaldwell.wordpress.com/2011/07/23/saturday-poem-6-ozymandias )




Ramesseum (T-H-L-K-D)
Heat
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I don't know why but that picture makes me think of Bedrock.
EricBarbour
Looks to me more like a stone monument to Jimbo Wales...."sorry, we tried to crowdsource the design, and this is what they made...."
Selina
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( ©DarkQueenComeToKrynn ) — douglaswhaley.blogspot.com/2010/10/when-atheists-die.html

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( ©DarkQueenComeToKrynn )

greenwake.keenspot.com/d/20120305.html
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( © Green Wake )

(The last one is "Nebuchadnezzar's Statue" [2][3][4][5][6][7][8] which is kinda interesting, I posted a reference to The Matrix earlier about the situation with homeless people being used as wi-fi spots) [/mythologygeekery smile.gif]
(I know, a bit offtopic, but too interesting not too)
Emperor
QUOTE(mbz1)
The only thinks that saddens me sometime is that even after I die, my Wikipedia user page will still have that template.


Hopefully mbz1 is feeling a little better by now.
Selina
I must have missed that, arg. Wow unhappy.gif I hope so, yeah.

They did get the template off her page, but I still think they should revdelete really, and remove the links to the banned profile from the images uploaded (I mean, if they're not deleted, they're positive contributions so there's no reason for there to be a big "this user got banned" statement a click away), it should be a matter of process for bots to do that when they ban someone under a real name probably, I dunno. Then again it kinda shows how messed up the system is that people who otherwise make huge contributions like her photography did get banned because of all the political drama that gets in the way and sucks people in.
mbz1
QUOTE(Selina @ Wed 14th March 2012, 1:53pm) *

I must have missed that, arg. Wow unhappy.gif I hope so, yeah.

They did get the template off her page, but I still think they should revdelete really, and remove the links to the banned profile from the images uploaded (I mean, if they're not deleted, they're positive contributions so there's no reason for there to be a big "this user got banned" statement a click away), it should be a matter of process for bots to do that when they ban someone under a real name probably, I dunno. Then again it kinda shows how messed up the system is that people who otherwise make huge contributions like her photography did get banned because of all the political drama that gets in the way and sucks people in.

All my contributions were positive contributions only, and exposing a bully admin who bullied a 16 years old kid to the extend he wanted to commit a suicide was the most positive of all.

I emailed Jimbo and asked him to remove the template not only from my user page, but from user pages of another banned/blocked editors. In particular I mentioned Ottava Rima, Proofreader77 and Will Beback. I told Jimbo that these templates "demonstrate to the whole world that Wikipedia is an insane place." In my particular situation I did not mind the template, but I minded it was linked to a lynch mob's lynching. Sickos who banned me lied about me, and I hated these lies to be linked to from my user page.
Ottava
QUOTE(AGK @ Mon 27th February 2012, 3:20pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Mon 27th February 2012, 6:35pm) *

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Even before I was banned, I observed how a "little shit" Daedalus969 (T-C-L-K-R-D) and other "little shits" were doing this, but today a sitting arbitrator AGK (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it too:
"banned means banned; barnstars, and his actual userpage, are in the history"
Why, AGK, did you do it? What is wrong, if below the banned user template there would be barnstars? What are you afraid of? Don't you understand how sick it looks to normal people?

And suddenly I realized that "the banned user template" is the only thing I'd like to be associated with me in the insane asylum that calls "wikipedia" http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...0&oldid=3513926.


My objection in this case was to the use of an invented barnstar gallery. The banned template was not replaced or added above Will Beback's previous userpage.

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.



AGK - on the matter - how do you feel about people editing my user page about TFAs, notices of FAs, DYKs, etc? Not "barnstars" of course but things dealing with content.

And technically, anyone can post on any other WMF wiki and you can't say no. Just because they are banned on en does not make them banned elsewhere. One of Meta's founding principles was to allow for people to still communicate when there were no other options (especially no neutral ones). You'll find a lot of backlash from communities like de if you tried to change that on Meta.
mbz1
QUOTE(Emperor @ Wed 14th March 2012, 1:48pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1)
The only thinks that saddens me sometime is that even after I die, my Wikipedia user page will still have that template.


Hopefully mbz1 is feeling a little better by now.

No, not really, somebody just emailed me this link, in which sicko tarc mentioned me in a thread about pedophiles!
It will never stop. I have been lynched more than a month ago, but sickos will never stop spreading their sick lies about me. I do not know how low these sickos could get knowing that a human being they torture cannot even respond!
Selina
Ah I misunderstood that at first, but I get where you're coming from, he's saying the administrators were acting abusively by letting you appeal. What... blink.gif
mbz1
QUOTE(Selina @ Wed 14th March 2012, 5:45pm) *

I just looked at Tarc's reply you linked there, and he is actually supporting you if you read carefully! smile.gif "{{u|Mbz1}}'s RfC shenanigans at Meta, where Meta admins long uses to their cozy corner didn't like having a spotlight shined on their activities. Here, we have a collection of administrators and users who are used to doing things their own way and don't like the rest of us poking in."

No matter how I read it, it is attacking me and compares my situation to the situation of pedophiles, and their situation is better than mine, and it is what really makes me sick to my stomach.

Pedophiles are dangerous for the kids, but bullies with administrative tools are too.
I am Proud of my rfc. If I knew in advance, what sickos from govcom and sickos from drama boards would have done to me, I would have still submitted that rfc anyway , but it is hard to be lied about over, and over, and over again.
mbz1
BTW the person, who emailed me the link called that link an irony, and it really is. Here's they explained why:

QUOTE
Tarc (who first nominated your RfC to be deleted on 7 Feb)
is saying on Jimbo's page (in the context of "Child protection")
that some people are sweeping things under the rug.

And what was your last information about Gwen Gale?
that she was bullying a minor - causing emotional harm.


Of course Tarc wants THAT swept under the rug.

So, the point isn't that someone is saying something bad about Mbz1.
The point is that the idiot saying something bad about Mbz1
is missing the point ...

Hence the irony.


And the bottom line that WMF wants to do nothing about either pedophiles, editing their sites, or about sick bullies with administrative tools, or about hard porno. They left to deal with these issues to anonymous volunteers!
Mooby
QUOTE(mbz1 @ Mon 27th February 2012, 10:49pm) *

Back to the topic of the thread this user who used to be an admin on a few wiki projects asked to lock his account himself. Nowhere, and I mean nowhere his user page was replaced with misleading template except of course English wikipedia, where a little shit Night Ranger  (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it.
This template is unneeded. Maybe somebody will be kind enough to undo the grave dancing.


Well I guess you don't have him to worry about any more. He just ragequit when someone removed the banned templates he'd been putting on user pages.

-Mooby
Emperor
QUOTE(Mooby @ Wed 14th March 2012, 11:00pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Mon 27th February 2012, 10:49pm) *

Back to the topic of the thread this user who used to be an admin on a few wiki projects asked to lock his account himself. Nowhere, and I mean nowhere his user page was replaced with misleading template except of course English wikipedia, where a little shit Night Ranger  (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it.
This template is unneeded. Maybe somebody will be kind enough to undo the grave dancing.


Well I guess you don't have him to worry about any more. He just ragequit when someone removed the banned templates he'd been putting on user pages.

-Mooby


Odd. What is he, a fan of Throwing Muses?
Proabivouac
Mbz1, instead of moaning about the long since IDd Gwen Gale and your bans, why not join others in identifying Wikiland's administrators? That's the only thing that ever moves them. You can accomplish much more by accepting that you're on the outside and running with that. It means you have the freedom to act without regard to Wiki norms and power structures.
mbz1
QUOTE(Emperor @ Thu 15th March 2012, 3:16am) *

QUOTE(Mooby @ Wed 14th March 2012, 11:00pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Mon 27th February 2012, 10:49pm) *

Back to the topic of the thread this user who used to be an admin on a few wiki projects asked to lock his account himself. Nowhere, and I mean nowhere his user page was replaced with misleading template except of course English wikipedia, where a little shit Night Ranger  (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it.
This template is unneeded. Maybe somebody will be kind enough to undo the grave dancing.


Well I guess you don't have him to worry about any more. He just ragequit when someone removed the banned templates he'd been putting on user pages.

-Mooby


Odd. What is he, a fan of Throwing Muses?


This is even stranger and This one is too Ah, I see, it was a reaction to somebody threatening to take a favorite toy of the sicko away:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=481383746
QUOTE
Please stop adding tags to blocked users. It helps no one, and can cause problems. In particular, don't add tags that are incorrect, but even tags that are technically correct, like the one you added to [[User:DeFacto]], are not helpful. --[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 01:45, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
mbz1
QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Thu 15th March 2012, 5:30am) *

Mbz1, instead of moaning about the long since IDd Gwen Gale and your bans, why not join others in identifying Wikiland's administrators? That's the only thing that ever moves them. You can accomplish much more by accepting that you're on the outside and running with that. It means you have the freedom to act without regard to Wiki norms and power structures.


What does "IDd" means? And what do you mean under identifying Wikiland's administrators? Thanks.
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