A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Because to a great extent banning people is a game of whack-a-mole and the banned template is either a trophy for the banner or his/her way of branding the banee as his/her chattel.

Because to a great extent banning people is a game of whack-a-mole and the banned template is either a trophy for the banner or his/her way of branding the banee as his/her chattel.

A few days ago I told my friend that, when a user is banned from wikipedia, his user page is replaced with banned user template. She looked at me, and asked "why?" I was not able to explain to her "why" because a normal person will never be able to understand it anyway.

Even before I was banned, I observed how a "little shit" Daedalus969 (T-C-L-K-R-D) and other "little shits" were doing this, but today a sitting arbitrator AGK (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it too:
"banned means banned; barnstars, and his actual userpage, are in the history"
Why, AGK, did you do it? What is wrong, if below the banned user template there would be barnstars? What are you afraid of? Don't you understand how sick it looks to normal people?

And suddenly I realized that "the banned user template" is the only thing I'd like to be associated with me in the insane asylum that calls "wikipedia" http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...0&oldid=3513926.

My objection in this case was to the use of an invented barnstar gallery. The banned template was not replaced or added above Will Beback's previous userpage.

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.

English isn't Mbz1's firsty language and I think that 'sitting' is a spelling mistake.

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

But, why, oh why, AGK? I am banned, am I not? "Banned means banned", is it not? Are you refusing to do it because I deserve the honor less than Will BeBack (T-C-L-K-R-D) does :-) I simply cannot believe that admins get preferential treatment even in adding "banned user templates" to user pages :-) Cheers --[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|talk]]) 19:54, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, yes, but why in the world that template could not be simply added to a current user page,with everything else that the user had there before is left alone. What is wrong with that?

My objection in this case was to the use of an invented barnstar gallery. The banned template was not replaced or added above Will Beback's previous userpage.

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.

Sure, it could be - that strikes me as the most elegant, fair solution.

Wait.

You added a message on his talk page?

What kind of person does that?

I am not sure about barnstar gallery added after he was banned, maybe he does not want these himself, but how about using his old page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=474717749 (only remove "administrator" things, and add the template)?

BTW, AGK, I'd like to ask you please, how you got to this thread so quickly? Were you emailed about it? I am asking because a few months ago I made a comment about another arbitrator here on WR. Then I got a quite innocent email from him. He told me he was emailed about my post, and asked me to email him, if I am to post something about him ever again. Would you like me to email to you too? Oh, wait, I forgot you told me "never email to you again"

Not the whole story. Mbz1 e-mails me and the committee's various mailing lists more frequently than probably any other editor, and all about basically the same issue. My annoyance at seeing yet another venue - my meta talk page, which I never use - being used for her agenda is not as misplaced as it may seem.

I have already said I have no issue with his userpage.

Good grief, please don't e-mail me too

Publish all my emails, and all you responses! Publish emails members of govcom exchanged about me. Publish them either here or on wiki. Publish everything.
I have nothing to hide, do you?


You did not respond my question, which was "how did you find out about the thread"?

people hate you mbz1.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.

My objection in this case was to the use of an invented barnstar gallery. The banned template was not replaced or added above Will Beback's previous userpage.

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

By the by, I may be a sitting arbitrator, but I was inactive on the TimidGuy case and I played no part in the decision-making process for the case.

You haven't answered his question. His question wasn't why in this particular case. The question is why you engage in this barbaric practice in general. I'm tempted to say 'medieval' but medieval society was somewhat more civilised than Wikipedia, so I won't.

It is a punishment by shame, something like this:

It is a punishment by shame...

Has any one danced around WBB's latest talk page comments and striking them out?

As though not just the one enacting the ban, but everyone in the community must participate in the shaming of the one cast out, the common participation in his or her public humiliation justifying their action and cementing their self-solidarity.

why almost every time you open your mouth, you say something stupid?

Thanks for catching it. What should it be?

I see you circumvented your English Wikipedia block by adding a message on my Meta talk page. Please stop using other Wikimedia websites to participate in Wikipedia, at least until you're willing to act in that project's benefit.

Listen here, you sanctimonious little fuck: Who the flying fuck do you think... (extended diatribe redacted)

I actually hate that practice of putting those templates on user's pages. It is very unsavory. And in some cases (not nec this one) the glee with which people jump to slap it up there is plain ol' disgusting.

Listen here, you sanctimonious little fuck: Who the flying fuck do you think you are telling another human being you've never met how they are or are not willing to act? Here, let me try to divine how you're "willing to act":

You have no empathy for human beings and generally have a hard time interacting with them in the real world so you are "willing to act" as an arrogant piece of shit proclaiming with certainty and idiotic self-assurance what the motivations are of any and all doubleplusungood nonpersons that you come across. Beyond your basement dwelling jack-off sessions playing Wikipedia, you have nothing to live for, and that causes you intense anxiety and an extreme "will to act" as a self-appointed guardian of the cult of which you're so happy to be a part. You're "willing to act" like a total schmuck because you think that your hard-fought attrition into some obscure cadre called the "Arbitration Committee" gives you a great responsibility as some Great Person on a popular internet site.

Well, you know what? You're nothing.

FUCK YOU.

If any member of the human race wants to use the perfectly legal means of fucking with Wikipedia because that website keeps more open doors and security holes in place than almost anywhere else of the world wide web, I encourage them to do so, if only to waste more of your miserable life's time so that we can ensure you'll stay locked in your basement and won't interact with the real world.

Mmmmm, I'm sensing some anger management issues here.

Listen here, you sanctimonious little fuck: Who the flying fuck do you think you are telling another human being you've never met how they are or are not willing to act? Here, let me try to divine how you're "willing to act":

You have no empathy for human beings and generally have a hard time interacting with them in the real world so you are "willing to act" as an arrogant piece of shit proclaiming with certainty and idiotic self-assurance what the motivations are of any and all doubleplusungood nonpersons that you come across. Beyond your basement dwelling jack-off sessions playing Wikipedia, you have nothing to live for, and that causes you intense anxiety and an extreme "will to act" as a self-appointed guardian of the cult of which you're so happy to be a part. You're "willing to act" like a total schmuck because you think that your hard-fought attrition into some obscure cadre called the "Arbitration Committee" gives you a great responsibility as some Great Person on a popular internet site.

Well, you know what? You're nothing.

FUCK YOU.

If any member of the human race wants to use the perfectly legal means of fucking with Wikipedia because that website keeps more open doors and security holes in place than almost anywhere else of the world wide web, I encourage them to do so, if only to waste more of your miserable life's time so that we can ensure you'll stay locked in your basement and won't interact with the real world.

I encourage such people to slit their wrists and save us from having to listen to their pedantic emo retardation. I will also point out that most movies with wrist-slitting do it completely wrong by showing the wound going across the wrist, when in reality you need to go up and down (i.e. inner-elbow-to-wrist) to get the preferred (i.e. dead) good result.

I am no fan of Wikipedia governance, but sometimes they do get it right; Mbz's ban was in all ways, shapes and forms correct.

This is a pathetic wastrel who in another time and place would've been shipped off to the gulag without a second thought.

Listen here, you sanctimonious little fuck: Who the flying fuck do you think you are telling another human being you've never met how they are or are not willing to act? Here, let me try to divine how you're "willing to act":

You have no empathy for human beings and generally have a hard time interacting with them in the real world so you are "willing to act" as an arrogant piece of shit proclaiming with certainty and idiotic self-assurance what the motivations are of any and all doubleplusungood nonpersons that you come across. Beyond your basement dwelling jack-off sessions playing Wikipedia, you have nothing to live for, and that causes you intense anxiety and an extreme "will to act" as a self-appointed guardian of the cult of which you're so happy to be a part. You're "willing to act" like a total schmuck because you think that your hard-fought attrition into some obscure cadre called the "Arbitration Committee" gives you a great responsibility as some Great Person on a popular internet site.

Well, you know what? You're nothing.

FUCK YOU.

If any member of the human race wants to use the perfectly legal means of fucking with Wikipedia because that website keeps more open doors and security holes in place than almost anywhere else of the world wide web, I encourage them to do so, if only to waste more of your miserable life's time so that we can ensure you'll stay locked in your basement and won't interact with the real world.

I have a premonition that your children too will grow up to become "pathetic wastrels", with you as their father it really is inevitable.

Ahh, the non sequitur, what the weak mind falls back when it has no other recourse.

I encourage such people to slit their wrists and save us from having to listen to their pedantic emo retardation. I will also point out that most movies with wrist-slitting do it completely wrong by showing the wound going across the wrist, when in reality you need to go up and down (i.e. inner-elbow-to-wrist) to get the preferred (i.e. dead) good result.

I am no fan of Wikipedia governance, but sometimes they do get it right; Mbz's ban was in all ways, shapes and forms correct.

This is a pathetic wastrel who in another time and place would've been shipped off to the gulag without a second thought.

I have a premonition that your children too will grow up to become "pathetic wastrels", with you as their father it really is inevitable.

So, yes, if I lived in Stalin's Russia, I would have probably ended up in the Gulag, and as I am proud to be banned from wikipedia of tarcs, I would have been proud to be banned from Russia of stalins and into gulag.

No matter what you say to Mbz1, she's proud of it. Blocked, banned, sent to a gulag, excommunicated, ostracized, firing squad, whatever you can think of, she just keeps right on keeping on.

Back to the topic of the thread this user who used to be an admin on a few wiki projects asked to lock his account himself. Nowhere, and I mean nowhere his user page was replaced with misleading template except of course English wikipedia, where a little shit Night Ranger  (T-C-L-K-R-D) did it.
This template is unneeded. Maybe somebody will be kind enough to undo the grave dancing.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Reques..._and_Beeblebrox

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...9880#My_request

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_req..._for_WizardOfOz

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...rdOfOz%40global

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Reques...User:WizardOfOz

Concerning the last link listed above, I don't agree with Mbz1's defense of WizardOfOz. WizardOfOz blocked Beeblebrox for the same reasons he blocked Abd:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...page=User%3AAbd

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...er%3ABeeblebrox

These blocks were acts of "kindness enforcement". "Kindness enforcement" is rampant on Meta:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Reques...10#Libel_on_RfA

WizardOfOz also blocked both of them indefinitely (i.e. you may only return once you yield and conform your behavior and beliefs to what we dictate), and he blocked both of their abilities to send Emails. WizardOfOz also blocked Beeblebrox's ability to reply on his or her talk page.

When someone dared criticize WizardOfOz and his or her blocks strongly and passionately, WizardOfOz decided to throw a temper tantrum. Sorry mbz1, but PeterSymonds doesn't owe WizardOfOz an apology.

Concerning Night_Ranger, he or she is obviously an obsessive, patrallor-type Wikipedian:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...ns/Night_Ranger

PS: Mila, I used "gulag" on purpose. I have done my homework on you

Then it is extremely not excusable! Any idiot can (and does) make silly remarks from lack of information. But here we have someone making a shockingly bad remark with a cold heart. And he knew exactly what he was doing!

Hey mbz1, I like your new sig.

Don't worry about Wikipedia. They are all sorts of silly.

The case is now over. The evidence is in, the closing arguments have been made, and the judgment is clear.

The modern notion of Encyclopaedia was a product of the Enlightenment and intended as an educational vehicle to raise the level of the masses. The Encyclopaedists included some of the greatest thinkers of their time. They valued, above all: knowledge, understanding, truth. The "scientific method" was based upon the same foundations: empirical knowledge, verifiability and careful reasoning. These were the ideals of the Enlightenment , together with a belief in justice in society.

Wikipedia is an embodiment of the opposite. It is a return to the Dark Ages, with an element of chaos that is greatly enhanced by the mass communications tools available in the internet. It involves a reduction of all genuine achievements to parity with the very basest, most primitive notions of the ignorant and undereducated. The encyclopaedists would never have proposed that their work was to be an equal collaboration of the ignorant and the educated. It was to be a vehicle for raising the former from their ignorance by making the most valuable achievements of human endeavor available to all.

Wikipedia, on the contrary, is the enshrinement of contempt for learning, knowledge and expertise. It is, for many, a diversionary hobby to which they are prepared devote a great portion of their time, as others do to computer based video games. Unfortunately, it has led also to an inner cult, shrouded in anonymity, with structures and processes of self-regulation that are woefully inadequate. Many of these tools and procedures are reminiscent, in parody, of those of the Inquisition: secret courts, an inner "elite" arbitrarily empowered to censor and exclude all those perceived as a threat to the adopted conventions of the cult; denunciations, character assassination, excommunication. An arbitrarily concocted "rulebook" and language rife with self-referential sanctimoniousness give a superficial illusion of order and good sense, but no such thing exists in practice.

It is truly a "Tyranny of the Ignorant". 24.202.238.172 (talk) 15:31, 15 April 2008 (UTC) (alias "R Physicisr")